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Will EVE Go VR?

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Vegarc
Doomheim
#41 - 2016-05-03 14:09:01 UTC
Vegarc wrote:
Morgan Johnstone wrote:
Quick question/speculation request:

Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.

I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?

JW...

How you can play EVE, drink beer and eat pizza at the same time when VR headset interrupts your vision in the real world?

How do you find the beer and pizza?
Ms Biatchy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#42 - 2016-05-03 19:02:22 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?

VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.


never say never....

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Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#43 - 2016-05-04 00:58:40 UTC
I can see the headlines now, "EVE Online player's house burgled while 'virtually' elsewhere." You just look through the window, and if you see this guy wearing a bubble-head helmet...his stereo is YOURS...TV (assuming EVE players own these things)...his dog will probably just jump in the van as the burglars pull away. (woof woof).

The cops...yeah..."Where were you, again?"
"Right here, officer."
"And...you didn't see a thing."
"?!?!?!?"
Cool

If we get chased by zombies, I'm tripping you.

ColdCutz
Frigonometry
#44 - 2016-05-12 03:56:55 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
If this ever actually becomes a reality, then I'll finally manage to quit EVE for real.

Where's the downside?
Josef Djugashvilis
#45 - 2016-05-12 12:26:23 UTC
Morgan Johnstone wrote:
Quick question/speculation request:

Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.

I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?

JW...


Only if and when CCP decides to kill Eve Online.

This is not a signature.

Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#46 - 2016-05-12 15:00:00 UTC
I don't think going completely to VR is a good idea at all due to the limited number of people but I wouldn't mind a VR UI option. Not exactly a priority though.

Every day I'm wafflin!

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#47 - 2016-05-12 16:57:16 UTC
It would be epic if it did. Imagine using HUD mode, but having the ability to "look around".

BUT


Let it be optional. With the cost of a headset these days, I don't want to log in and be told I can't play because I didn't fork over hundreds of bucks for a headset.

We also need more market for the headsets. Right now I'm not giving Suckerberg the high cost of an Occulus. When the headsets are down to $150 or less then we'll see traction in the market. We need to be able to plug one in and use it just like we use an audio headset or joystick: without attachments, needing "some account somewhere", or any crap like that.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

May Arethusa
Junction Systems
#48 - 2016-05-12 19:10:58 UTC
Vegarc wrote:
Vegarc wrote:
Morgan Johnstone wrote:
Quick question/speculation request:

Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.

I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?

JW...

How you can play EVE, drink beer and eat pizza at the same time when VR headset interrupts your vision in the real world?

How do you find the beer and pizza?


D Scan.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#49 - 2016-05-12 20:05:03 UTC
May Arethusa wrote:
Vegarc wrote:
Vegarc wrote:
Morgan Johnstone wrote:
Quick question/speculation request:

Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.

I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?

JW...

How you can play EVE, drink beer and eat pizza at the same time when VR headset interrupts your vision in the real world?

How do you find the beer and pizza?


D Scan.



I've written programs with OpenCV code that could "detect round" objects such that it's not entirely off the table to be able to detect a pizza in the RL sphere and then overlay that into the game viewpoint.

Of course once you took a slice out of it then you need a new algorithm or would need to use the same "curves" recognition used to detect fingers and hands.

Having never had an original idea in my life, expect to see people already doing this on Hackaday within the month.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Kieron VonDeux
#50 - 2016-05-13 06:46:17 UTC
Morgan Johnstone wrote:
Quick question/speculation request:

Do we see EVE Online going completely to VR in the coming years? When I say this, I mean that VR will be the only way to play EVE.

I get that VR is "the next big thing," but what about people who play EVE now that can't use a VR or even can't afford one?

JW...



I would suggest VR in its current form would be a huge and risky step for CCP to try do with Eve Online for the many reasons suggested.

But, VR in future incarnations, well Eve is one of the games that could become truly multi-generational where you hand down accounts like you do other things to your decedents so sometime in the future Eve could go to a VR like system, like plugging in into the Matrix. Of course the EULA may need to be updated.

But that is a long time off and Eve would need to survive until then which is no guarantee by any means.

It would be interesting to experience a game like that.

Vayren
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#51 - 2016-07-22 22:48:14 UTC
I have the HTC Vive and would love if Eve online supported it fully.

Already I can join two virtual monitors seemlessly in a VR environment to give myself a massive widescreen which I can spread eve across, looks /amazing/

What would be incredible is a VR interface, not even trying to pretend eve is an arcade game or something, but so I have access to my ship fitting, markets, chat channels, ship controls, targets all in a nice UI designed for VR so that I can just look at something or swivel in my chair to access a particular part of eve.

Adding head tracking so that I can see ships and targets from the center of my ship would work wonders as well for a VR positional tactical opportunity.

It sounds like something out of those anime where the sit down and have a 360 degree angle to observe tactical data and make command decisions, would be a hell of a lot of fun I think.

Not everyone can do VR well though, as in people, persons. I actually do some work from home which I do in a VR environment for part of the time as there are advantages, such as not feeling like I'm stuck in my small office, massive screens etc.

I can do it all day, no problem. Some people get sick or don't live having the equipment on them. Eve definitely needs to support traditional flat screen playing still and for a long time. Unless eve survives until the day where all of society uses VR for everything anyway.
000Hunter000
Missiles 'R' Us
#52 - 2016-07-23 20:02:37 UTC
1. drink beer
2. eat pizza
3. play eve in VR
4. puke
5. ...
6. profit!!! Big smile
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#53 - 2016-07-23 21:16:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Daemun Khanid wrote:


As I said before, when VR gear can be utilized unobtrusively alongside similarly compact and unobtrusive hardware it will find a wide and prosperous market. Go ahead and hold your breath.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Contact_Lens

Will do.

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MidnightWyvern
Fukamichi Corporation
SAYR Galactic
#54 - 2016-07-23 22:13:13 UTC
Rook Moray wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
What have you been smoking that you even considered this a possibility?

Videogame RPGs are a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional tabletop pen/paper/dice gaming.



Fixed that for ya.


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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2016-07-24 08:26:14 UTC
$400 hardware used to make spreadsheets 3d....

vr has always been a niche market and it will stay that way due to the price of the hardware. this fad will die out like they always do, once the companies that are selling the hardware pull the plug. it doesn't matter how good it is if the price isn't right. there is also no way game developers will support vr if only .05% of their potential market has vr hardware.

ccp requiring the use of vr hardware would kill their cashcow... that's not going to happen.

op is smoking something amazing, or is a ccp employee trying to "stealthily" gauge the playerbase's reaction to vr in eve.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#56 - 2016-07-24 09:01:59 UTC
Font too small, too many UI changes for it to be even recognizable as EVE UI anymore.

Would need a lot of compromises and would feel like a bad thing doing anything.
Andrey Wartooth
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2016-07-24 09:08:23 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
marVLs wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:

VR is a gimmick. Nothing more. It will never ever replace traditional gaming on a flat screen.


Pretty sure that quote will be "lol" in future


Maybe 50 years from now. The current bulky "wear big thing on face with massive wire coming out" itteration that is VR isn't in any form a comfortable way of gaming. As new tech becomes available I'm sure it will conquer its place, but that's decades away.


Dude, have you even tried roomscale VR yet?
Hael Morgan
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2016-07-24 10:27:48 UTC
VR is miles away from being anything interesting, as has already been said, it's a gimmick right now and it's likely to stay that way for a while, despite consoles rattling their chains and bringing out VR compatible versions for a more cash.

I can't see Eve embracing VR anyway, as the game is not suited to it, in short VR EVE would be a pointless waste of cash, and if it were to be viable then the whole game would need to change to be more like ELITE DANGEROUS or similar in order to make it worthwhile.

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Crinnfika
Doomheim
#59 - 2016-07-24 20:23:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Crinnfika
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:



The prices will come down, and so will the size give it time. Have you ever seen a cell phone from the 1980s?

What am I the only one farting dust around here? Heck, even the show "Omni" didn't cover the stuff we have today. Anybody remember the first Alien movie? When they communicated with the Nostromo's main computer, they were using a monochrome screen and a small keyboard (that looked like an old Vic-20 keyboard). Yes, travelling in space, with an AI flying a ship, and .... a small keyboard with a freaking monochrome?

Give it time.



I wouldn't be so optimisic


Many things are technologically possible, but only a few are economically possible.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#60 - 2016-07-24 20:54:49 UTC
If the made the option on or off why the hell not? I even consider buying a VR just for that lol.