Player Features and Ideas Discussion

aka quality over numbers.
Since CCP is trying to minimize passive incomes - why not to make every active character must have an active sub to be used. Trading/industry/PI alts provide passive income and combat alts provide additional advantage (scouts, cyno, eyes, logistics itc) - leading to people use numbers over quality in both industry/mining/PI and combat.
While it wont remove alts from game - it would lessen its impact and force people to think and get maximum from their alts. Industry/PI alts would not be "passive income" whores with minimum skills required and combat alts would not be dirty cheap to use on every occation. Probably would lead for healthier economics and small scale pvp, better player-to-player interaction.
Feel free to leave your woes and ideas here.
ps: also additional profits for CCP (im sure they like it )

This is kind of how it works already. Which is why we are limited to 3 characters per account in total where other games offer 10 or more per server with hundreds possible in total.

I propose to make it more hardcore (players of EVE like hardcore right ?) - 1 active character per sub.
The difference 3(now) vs 1 is pretty big - so i would not say its "kind of how it works already".

What about those of us who simply enjoy having a toon for daytripping into fw space for some solo pvp

Make it proffessional instead of occational blatant pew-pew stuff just for fun. Probably if you would have to pay for your fw alt - you would take it more serious which is good for fw game. Or you would leave it as its not your main activity in which you are actually not intrested in.
Otherwise you underdig the ideas of FW forcing it to be not what it meant to be (dumb pvp arena instead of pvp powerplay around landcontrol).
ps: its not only fw - in any area of activity such approach discredit whole activity.

So you want to drive even more people out of the game? neat. You don't happen to work for one of CCP's competitors, do you?

lol what do you mean competitors

this is something that would make CCP more $ fast and drive more players away in the long run sounds like CCPs MO

lol some ppl would and they would do it b4 other ppls subs ended hence more $ in the short term but fking them over long term. something ccp seems to be keen on

The ideas was simple
- make players value their assets more as they have to pay per character (less pvp for lulz, less items sold below its production costs by occational indie alts - overall more professional and deep approach by players)
- reduce impact of alts (wont eleminate it but people stop having 6+ alts for every occation - would lead to better interplayer interaction)
- CCP profits
- and yes, call it hardcore just because one need to think smart with limited assets.

Most of people cant accept this because they used to make profits or small wars with numbers over quality.
Like why have scouts or another pilot flying capital when one have 4-6 alts. Why bother with PI layouts or smart production when you have 3 low sp alts and having same profits with little skill involved (and im about player skills not ingame character skills)

In what way are the incomes from Trading, Industry, and PI passive?
I mean if you are talking about something like POCO tax I'd get it...but these?