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Poitot Citadel Kill - One Question
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Citricioni
#1 - 2016-05-01 20:33:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Citricioni
Hello!

How is it possible that the Poitot-Citadel is already dead.

Here is the killmail: Astrahus ( Citadel )
There are already fighters in it, so it seems that it was online and ready for use.

On the EVE Helpdesk you will find these article: CITADEL VULNERABILITY STATES

Quote out of the article:
Quote:
The duration of the Invulnerable state between attacks is:

24 hours from shield to armor, then 6 days from armor to hull for any structure outside wormhole space


If it was anchored and onlined on Wednesday. (The release of the citadel addon)
Shield at 0 on Wednesday
Armor at 0 on Thursday AND then 6 days invulnerable.

Wednesday was 4 days ago?! WTF?!

We tested it on the Testservers and had no invulnerable state after shooting all the shields and started to hit armor right away?

Is the article wrong or I forgot about something?
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
#2 - 2016-05-01 20:37:29 UTC
You can get em while they online. Which is like 24 hours or something. Then it 100% pure hull. you don't need to go though the timers.

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Citricioni
#3 - 2016-05-01 20:41:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Citricioni
Delt0r Garsk wrote:
You can get em while they online. Which is like 24 hours or something. Then it 100% pure hull. you don't need to go though the timers.


Our Citadel on the test server had the first vulnerability window today.
It was online yesterday and then after the cycle it was in the invulnerable state, it was at full shield, full armor and full hull.

There was no timer after we shoot all the shield, after the shield we start hitting the armor. So i miss the 24h invul window.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#4 - 2016-05-01 20:42:45 UTC
did you have a full fitting on yours in sisi though?

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Citricioni
#5 - 2016-05-01 20:44:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Citricioni
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
did you have a full fitting on yours in sisi though?


Yup. I was searching for other explanations for that in the forums, dev blogs and help desk articles, but there is no reason why that can happen.
Nooien Soong
United Space Republic
#6 - 2016-05-01 20:55:53 UTC
after 24 hour anchor period, this is the 15 min window where all it has is hull where after that period, it then gets full armor/shields

If you attack it just as it finishes the anchor period, you can then pop it within 30 mins
Citricioni
#7 - 2016-05-01 20:58:19 UTC
Nooien Soong wrote:
after 24 hour anchor period, this is the 15 min window where all it has is hull where after that period, it then gets full armor/shields

If you attack it just as it finishes the anchor period, you can then pop it within 30 mins


yeah looks i forgot about that 15 minute state.
But why our citadel on the test server which was out of it and entered the first vuln window was killable :(
Nooien Soong
United Space Republic
#8 - 2016-05-01 21:02:03 UTC
depends when you did your test.

When they first came out on SISI, I took half a dozen hulks with hammer II's and was visibly decreasing the shields quickly.

Think things only got into their true state a few days before release.

I will be doing a re-test on SISI myself in a few weeks before we even consider putting ours up.
Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#9 - 2016-05-01 21:04:40 UTC
Nooien Soong wrote:
after 24 hour anchor period, this is the 15 min window where all it has is hull where after that period, it then gets full armor/shields

If you attack it just as it finishes the anchor period, you can then pop it within 30 mins


Sound like there was a spy in the citadel owner corp that gave away the exact time of that window an that there wan't a defending fleet.
At least, looking the only citadel I have seen, I haven't noticed a visible timer.

Or you can get it looking at the citadel information?
Citricioni
#10 - 2016-05-01 21:09:21 UTC
Nooien Soong wrote:
depends when you did your test.

When they first came out on SISI, I took half a dozen hulks with hammer II's and was visibly decreasing the shields quickly.

Think things only got into their true state a few days before release.

I will be doing a re-test on SISI myself in a few weeks before we even consider putting ours up.



We tested it today, our citadel was online some days ago with the first vuln window today.

Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
Nooien Soong wrote:
after 24 hour anchor period, this is the 15 min window where all it has is hull where after that period, it then gets full armor/shields

If you attack it just as it finishes the anchor period, you can then pop it within 30 mins


Sound like there was a spy in the citadel owner corp that gave away the exact time of that window an that there wan't a defending fleet.
At least, looking the only citadel I have seen, I haven't noticed a visible timer.

Or you can get it looking at the citadel information?



You see it in space how long it take to anchor.
Nooien Soong
United Space Republic
#11 - 2016-05-01 21:15:53 UTC
first vuln window is always the first 15 mins after anchoring finishes, and then it goes into the cycle that you specify.
danile666
Peripheral Madness
#12 - 2016-05-02 16:28:09 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
Nooien Soong wrote:
after 24 hour anchor period, this is the 15 min window where all it has is hull where after that period, it then gets full armor/shields

If you attack it just as it finishes the anchor period, you can then pop it within 30 mins


Sound like there was a spy in the citadel owner corp that gave away the exact time of that window an that there wan't a defending fleet.
At least, looking the only citadel I have seen, I haven't noticed a visible timer.

Or you can get it looking at the citadel information?



Nah, it shows if you click on the citadel. We fielded 50-60 dudes, but guys came from the other side of eve. Wasn't much we could do. So we suicided in glorious fire.

They did hit it in the 15 minute window. You can fit fighters, you cannot fit anything else.
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#13 - 2016-05-02 20:47:11 UTC
Interesting group of ships w/drones on that KM.

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