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What happened to the overview?

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Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#1 - 2016-05-01 21:20:04 UTC
So ever since Citadel launched, my overview is holding on to stuff that's warped off and stuff that was at a station but stays on the overview after I warp off. Today it got worse. Couldn't switch tabs without stuff just staying around, can't sort by distance, etc.

Anyone else seeing this behavior?
Jovian Angel
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-05-01 21:41:38 UTC
Yup I was getting similar issues yesterday.

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Galaxxis
The Regency
The Monarchy
#3 - 2016-05-01 21:43:05 UTC
They broke it.
W33b3l
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-05-01 21:43:18 UTC
I don't have an answer for this other then try clearing your cache.

However, is this happening while sitting inside a citadel and looking outside, or sitting in space in your ship?

Info might help a dev or someone that see's this assuming the cache clearing doesn't help.
Rumbless
#5 - 2016-05-01 21:45:28 UTC
It's broken ... A quick fix is to click on a different overview tab, then click on the one you actually want to use. It should work until you dock up.
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#6 - 2016-05-01 21:50:55 UTC
W33b3l wrote:
I don't have an answer for this other then try clearing your cache.

However, is this happening while sitting inside a citadel and looking outside, or sitting in space in your ship?

Info might help a dev or someone that see's this assuming the cache clearing doesn't help.



This is happening while in space in a ship. I had to double check that it wasn't a Matari ship. You never know what to expect from engineers who put the heat sinks on the outside of the ship.

Happens outside station virtually all of the time.

This last incident though was while I was salvaging The Blockade (which is a nightmare of it's own). Typically, I have stuff sorted by distance and start tractoring the stuff farthest away (80km is a long reach for tractors). But then the overview freaked out, everything got unsorted and stuff was grey or stuff that wasn't there any more stayed on the overview. In incidents outside of station, if I switch tabs between General (doesn't show wrecks) and Salvage (shows wrecks), the greyed out "phantoms" will go away. This incident in the mission complex required a restart (so yes, I did try turning it off and on again Smile)

If you think of other information that might be helpful, I am happy to provide it.
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#7 - 2016-05-01 21:57:07 UTC
If it happens again, I'll drop a bug report for it. I just didn't know if anyone else was seeing this or if it was something stupid that I did (I'm really smart but do a lot of stupid things). Big smile
Rumbless
#8 - 2016-05-01 22:26:07 UTC
CCP think they fixed it, as per this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6458857#post6458857
Which is clearly wrong.
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#9 - 2016-05-01 22:32:46 UTC
Rumbless wrote:
CCP think they fixed it, as per this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6458857#post6458857
Which is clearly wrong.


Actually, emptying the cache may have resolved the issue for me. Testing now.
Kitsune Rei
Tastes Like Purple
#10 - 2016-05-01 22:38:49 UTC
Kitsune Rei wrote:
Rumbless wrote:
CCP think they fixed it, as per this post: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6458857#post6458857
Which is clearly wrong.


Actually, emptying the cache may have resolved the issue for me. Testing now.



Nope, the guys warping away from station grey out and become untargetable on the overview, but they remain on the overview. So, you're right. Not fixed after clearing cache and verifying install.
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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2016-05-01 23:06:23 UTC
LoL. I've just got market window changed header and kept orders list of previous item... Almost got me to sell something very cheap.... Shocked

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Shallanna Yassavi
qwertz corp
#12 - 2016-05-02 00:14:48 UTC
Press and release alt.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#13 - 2016-05-02 00:21:12 UTC
CCP does this on purpose every patch or so to reduce something something and catch someone someone..... or.... something....


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The Chodak
Void Alliance
#14 - 2016-05-02 00:30:25 UTC
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#15 - 2016-05-02 01:41:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Tap CTRL. That should force refresh the overview into reflecting new and old contacts (if you are seeing a lot of greyed out "ghost" contacts and duplicated items). CTRL's lock function may be getting set into a stuck position where it does not lock and unlock properly, might be what is causing the issue. Works for me, anyways. Hope it helps.

Edit: Try tapping ALT as well, like Shallanna Yassavi suggested, if that doesn't work.

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Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#16 - 2016-05-02 03:44:18 UTC
This has been happening since wednesday. It's brought up in the official patch issues thread, the issues and workarounds forum, bug reports submitted and on reddit. Upon undocking switch overview tabs and have fun till you dock again. Why its taken this long to fix is beyond me but I assume how and why its broken must be ellusive and unexpected.

Daemun of Khanid
ISD Buldath
#17 - 2016-05-02 03:52:59 UTC
Yah, Tap Ctrl. Best way to do it.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#18 - 2016-05-02 04:15:15 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
This has been happening since wednesday. It's brought up in the official patch issues thread, the issues and workarounds forum, bug reports submitted and on reddit. Upon undocking switch overview tabs and have fun till you dock again. Why its taken this long to fix is beyond me but I assume how and why its broken must be ellusive and unexpected.


It's also the weekend, too. It's why we haven't seen a patch in the last 48 hours. People tend to forget that Devs gotta sleep some time. So do the hamsters, but that's why they would be running shifts, right?

The why is probably the easy part in fact, but getting a fix together that doesn't bork something else in the process might be what the holdup's for. Either situation really, though it's no surprise to me as the camera modes, new and old, have seemed to be rather on the finicky side when the Devs do anything with them.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#19 - 2016-05-02 04:33:49 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Daemun Khanid wrote:
This has been happening since wednesday. It's brought up in the official patch issues thread, the issues and workarounds forum, bug reports submitted and on reddit. Upon undocking switch overview tabs and have fun till you dock again. Why its taken this long to fix is beyond me but I assume how and why its broken must be ellusive and unexpected.


It's also the weekend, too. It's why we haven't seen a patch in the last 48 hours. People tend to forget that Devs gotta sleep some time. So do the hamsters, but that's why they would be running shifts, right?

The why is probably the easy part in fact, but getting a fix together that doesn't bork something else in the process might be what the holdup's for. Either situation really, though it's no surprise to me as the camera modes, new and old, have seemed to be rather on the finicky side when the Devs do anything with them.


Why it hasnt been fixed since friday is pretty obvious. Just suprised it wasnt done in one of the other hot fix patches since release. No big deal. Just figure it must have been hard to narrow down the cause since it didnt make it before the weekend.

Daemun of Khanid
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#20 - 2016-05-02 06:16:00 UTC
I've had this issue before, just way more frequently after citadel. I have yet to try Alt and Ctrl, what works for me though is cycling auto tracking (shift+c) to get the overview back in line.

Btw my speed meter also used to get stuck sometimes and my capacitor display might vanish as well (tooltips would continue working for both though). Does anybody have a quick workaround for those?
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