Missions & Complexes

These rats ruined the game for most nullsec ratters, they still need a lot of work to be done.

These rats are also far too strong. These rats ruined the game for most nullsec ratters, they still need a lot of work to be done. Also they dont have proper names. They are all named like "sansha Supercarrier" etc

They are not overpowered or too strong.
Proper tactics and that's it.
Few hours ago we killed dreradnaught within aprox 8-10 minutes without ships with bilion price.
It is team PvE

I recall from one of our earlier discussions re: high-sec, low-sec and null-sec PvE income that you felt null-sec needed to be buffed in a serious way. Is this what you were hoping for or is it merely a step in the right direction?

I'm sorry, i'm not trying to be mean, but damn is it funny to watch the tears of all the people who got used to the old "semi-afk just watch local" lifestyle that's been in null since Dominion (when ccp introduced respawning anoms in upgraded systems).

Not only did CCP up the profitability of null with these caps, they did it in a way that potentially *slows down the massive afk bounty isk faucet and encourages people to at least fleet up to do anomalies. The exploding pve ships of people not smart enough to adapt to the new reality is an added plus.


* I say slow down because CCP didn't go far enough. This capital spawns should be in hubs (regular, forsaken, forlorn etc) as well, leaving them only in sanctums and havens just shifts the afktars to forsaken hubs and that's still not optimal.


I'd say 2 things to CCP:

#1. See the tears of the afk crowd CCP? This is what happens when you give people stuff that is too easy, then later take it away. The smarter thing to do is not give people easy, afk-able stuff to begin with.

And #2 (this is the big one). The very good outcome of adding NPC caps demonstrates how you (CCP) should be thinking about PVE in this game. You didn't add any fancy new AI, no convoluted new 'dungeons' (like you did with incursions which few people do) or 'space that has a different affect on ships' (like in Wormholes, where few people live). This time You didn't add super-invincible "interesting" NPCs (Drifters, which almost no one screws with because they are too annoying).

You simply took pretty much existing PVE mechanics that you know is popular because you see how much we do it and added extra risk and extra reward to it. I've been saying this for a long time, stop wasting your time listening to these pie in the sky PVE complainers who want soloable but safe 'immersive' PVE that's not compatible with the game. Give us sandbox PVE , like these npc capitals the encourage social interactions and conflict (people are already fighting over npc capital spawns).

Awesome! Now I am even more willing to move into nulsec instead of grinding these missions.

I always hated that nulsec ratting grinding. If you can get about same amount of ISK than before, but with the difference that you cannot do it yourself semi-afk it is just perfect.

Actually it was one of the major reasons why I left this game at the first place that nulsec was absolutely boring.

Working together instead of running army of alts is much more interesting and fun.