EVE General Discussion

CCP changed Catiz's skin color after she was made Empress. She went from being Beyonce colored to old Michael Jackson colored. There was also an interim portrait where she looked like this cool shaved-head cyberpunk with black lipstick. I did not like the skin color change without a lore explanation, but I like this "Brunette Jamyl" complete with bun and background even less.

If you have poor color range in your vision and can't tell the difference immediately just sample her recently changed portrait with the old one in Photoshop. The color difference is so radical that the difference in the makeup range for example would be ten shades. Sample from the midrange, not the highlights to be even fairer in your assessment.

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What is the problem?
You compare a portrait from years when eve used totally different engine to current one?
Skin tone was just diffrent during this times.
Examples :
http://www.eve-avatars.com/?chribba (old much darker)
http://www.eve-avatars.com/?Jari (old much brighter)

Well that is a surprise to me. (lore team) I was shocked to hear there wasn't one, probably less shocked to learn there is one. It isn't the first time I have been told something that is outright wrong and bad for my roleplay by senior players though. I'm glad you explained all of this Falcon as it is pretty important to me.

Since the old character engine was the portrait for Catiz on the Evelopedia which was linked in Help I assumed this was old character art.




The truth is new players like me just can't be expected to keep up with such things as the true story of old engines and inexplicable randomly generated character art for major characters which changes at intervals for no reason. That is CCP's problem, if they do not want roleplayers to be confused then they need to fix them, it's as simple as that. It's impossible for us to make sense of it all. When other companies make a lore error they address it either by apologizing or rectifying it some way. Eve does not have the literally thousands of characters, hundreds of deeply well defined locations, and all sorts of creatures, items, and plot themes that all define the worlds these other companies manage. There are exactly two creatures, less than a dozen main characters (all poorly defined) and the systems are mostly the same everywhere you go. Unless you read the books you have no real way to connect the dots of the lore to the systems explained in Templar One.


I didn't know anything about the old engine, I just like any newbie logged in and started following links in Eve to Evelopedia to brush up on my lore, the first thing I do when I get in a new game so I can decide who I will be. Roleplayers or just plain fans of sci fi or fantasy fiction are notorious for analyzing lore. It was common knowledge she was Udorian and *presumed* to have caramel color skin in a talking point in Imperial OOC chat channel at some point. Skin color does play a role in the racials, you cannot roll a True Amarrian with the same color as my Khanid Amarr here. Even though we can't roll full blood Udorian it is a part of the lore.

If your question is just about the nature of roleplaying, any non-roleplayer can tell you that the game's lore adds meaning and structure to the otherwise pointless PvP killing. We all know there is much better PvP to be had out there. Fake spaceships and a fantasy of living in space is the appeal of Eve.

Udorians don't really exist anymore though, she may have the slightest bit of Udorian in her, but for all intent and purpose, she is true Amarr and is physically indistinguishable from other true Amarr.

I remember some time ago when Empress Jamyl's portrait changed. She got a haircut. She had nice long hair before that.

But being possessed by some otherworldy evil infomorph creature can do that. Good thing the Drifters put an end to this ruse.

Not meaning any disrespect towards you CCP Falcon, and this is in good spirit, but...

Sansha Kuvakei called and he wants an in-game model of his own!