Player Features and Ideas Discussion

A very rough stage of a proposal for a gas compressing ship...

Hull:
Primae, introduce BPOs (nullsec ORE space only)
Vmax/inertia/WarpSpeed/TtW: no change from current
Drone bay? 5 light drones, bandwidth for 3?
PI hold changed to Compressed Gas hold, scales with ship skill(s)

Slots:
2H (tractor beam?, gcc; see below)
1M
4L

Main drawbacks due to inherent volatile properties of gas:
- very limited electronics, ie. no cloak, crap sensor strength (very vulnerable to scanning), basically no shields during compression
(the idea is basically no spasks while working with gas..)
- not usable near structures due to safety reasons(?)
- stationary while compressing
- maybe needs to be "spoon-fed" gas from external sources? What i mean:
Gas from Cans|mobile depots|corp/fleet hangars of other ships? > Primae main hold (1000 cubic meters, also holds PI mats needed for the compression) > compressed gas (bottles?, containers?) goes into re-purposed PI hold of the Primae.

High slot item, gas_compression_core (GCC):
- T1 (requires Gas Compressing IV); cycle time fixed, 90 seconds
- T2 (requires Gas Compressing V); cycle time fixed, 65 seconds, maybe reduced PI material req. by 1/3rd
- Fixed batch

Skills for GCC:
Gas compressing, 4x multiplier

Skill prerequisites:
Gas Cloud Harvesting IV
Processing V (yes!)

Additional required materials (PI, just an idea...)?
1x P3 PI commodity (Cryoprotectant solutions)
3x P2 PI commodity (Coolant, Microfiber Shielding, Supertensile Plastics)
for each batch?

Gas compression skill scaling examples for sample volumes: 500|4.500|60.000:

lvl I: compression ratio 50% - 250|2.250|30.000
lvl II: compression ratio 70% - 150|1.350|18.000
lvl III: compression ratio 75% - 125|1.125|15.000
lvl IV: compression ratio 78% - 110| 990|13.200
lvl V: compression ratio 80% - 100| 900|12.000
Reprocessing Compressed Gas could follow the same rules as reprocessing Compressed Ore.

You guys like this general idea? No? Why? Let's discuss.

lol wut? They range from 2m3 to 10m3! Have you ever tried to move this stuff? Even a max skilled DST can only move enough for about a week of reactions.

That being said, I don't support putting compression back into ships. I would rather we could just compress it like ore, and then let us use the compressed gases as the reactants.

Still can't get over how we can compress ore in eve but not gases, when irl we compress gases to liquid form for transport, but not solids.

Gasses are compressed to raise pressure. Gasses are condensed into liquids. Look closely at a H2 truck (compressed gas) and a liquid N2 truck (liquid) on the highway. Totally and obviously different.

We compress solids for transport all the time. Garbage is a simple example that everyone has seen. Another transport related compression of a solid is blacktop. The machine puts down 5 hot steamy inches of solids and then a steam roller smashes it down to 3. Not a compression for transportation per say, but an easily recognized compression of a solid.

An actual example of compression real close to ore compression. Rip rap (not so technical term for sized rocks). You can order a truckload of rip rap and it's not hard to conclude that for 2 identical trucks - the one that is full of the smaller sized rip raps will have more rip rap and less air between the rocks. So simply crushing a pile of really big rocks into a pile of really small rocks compresses the ore into a smaller volume because the volume of airspace between rocks is minimized. You can do the same with bricks (all the same size) - fill a truck up w/ bricks by throwing them in OR you can get a whole lot more in there if you neatly stack them. That home depot truck you passed on the way home that had 2 pallets of nicely stacked brick was actually an example of ore compression for transport. (It's like there is a whole world out there you never noticed )

I hope this helps


I'm against gas compression. As it stands now cheap gas is small and expensive gas is big. It all works out.