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Cerberus - Buff Its Speed

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Alexei Greshenko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-13 00:06:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Alexei Greshenko
I don't think I'd have too much trouble finding people to agree that, as a whole, Caldari HACs are sub-par when compared to what the other races have to offer. As a result, I know this is by no means the first "BUFF CALDARI HACS" thread to ever grace this forum section. Nevertheless, I still wanted to make a suggestion that I feel will greatly benefit the Cerberus (on the other hand, the Eagle is a poor, lost soul and putting forward a comprehensive list of required improvements would necessitate a wall-o-text of legendary proportions - hence, it will not be addressed here).

Now, to the point: GIVE THE CERBERUS A SPEED BONUS. This bonus could possibly also be reflected in the Caracal.

The Cerb has a relatively weak tank (slot layout, grid issues, and a totally sh*t capacitor all contribute to this). It can, however, lob missiles (HAMs or Heavies) at respectable ranges thanks to the bonus. These factors combined seem to suggest that the Cerb was never intended to be a brawler, and therefore there is no point in turning it into one. It seems like it would ideally be Caldari's "skirmish ship" (I know, i know...LOLCALDARI NANO...but that sentiment exists for a reason). The problem is, with an MWD and without any other agility/speed mods, the ship is no faster than a 1x nano nano-cane (albeit more agile). This is completely a**-backwards, in my opinion. When you look at the speeds on the new Tier3 BCs, it's even more ridiculous.

The Cerb should be able to hit around 2k m/s with a MWD - un-overheated, and without other speed/agility mods - with HAC V. Basically, it shouldn't be as fast as a Vaga, but it shouldn't be as slow as a freakin' Tier2 BC.

I think a change like this, although not extremely radical (IMO), would do a lot to make the Cerb better at it's (apparent) role.
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#2 - 2012-01-13 15:15:03 UTC
Have you tried a nano caldari navy caracal? It's probably close to what you're looking for. 2800 m/s with the agility of a frig. The only real problem is it isn't a very good HAM boat.

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tankus2
HeartVenom Inc.
#3 - 2012-01-13 15:42:23 UTC
between the cerb and the eagle, the cerb is the one that would more likely be a skrimisher-type, which the game needs more of. Currently, its whatever nano-arty cane/cyn/vaga the enemy pulls out of their arse.

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Alexei Greshenko
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-01-13 19:52:06 UTC
Fidelium Mortis wrote:
Have you tried a nano caldari navy caracal? It's probably close to what you're looking for. 2800 m/s with the agility of a frig. The only real problem is it isn't a very good HAM boat.


Ah yeah, good point...forgot about that boat, tbh :P. It also has room for 3 light drones doesn't it? Problem is, though, it doesn't have the T2 resist profile ... along with the inability to be a good HAM boat, as you mentioned.

It's still beyond me why CCP dropped the ball on the Cerb, especially given that they seemed to have made the navy caracal....decent.
Goose99
#5 - 2012-01-13 23:01:51 UTC
All Caldari boats larger than frigs, except drake, need a speed boost, among other things, to be viable pvp. They can't gank, can't tank, can't gtfo. Lol km waiting to happen.Roll