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EVE: Citadel expansion - Issues

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#281 - 2016-04-28 13:24:10 UTC
Frappe wrote:
FT Diomedes wrote:
Where did the Armor Resistance Phasing skill go? I do not see it on any of my characters, or in Evemon, but I did not get any reimbursement for that skill being removed. By my calculation, that's 135,765 SP that I am missing (had it trained to Level IV).


It's under Engineering. Now it's called Resistance Phasing.


Thank you. It wound have been nice to put that in the patch notes.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Stew Muldonian
Pilgrims and nilfheim.
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#282 - 2016-04-28 13:29:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Stew Muldonian
CCP Goliath wrote:
Gary Bell wrote:
Any idea when your gonna sort out this BS with modules..?

It is making the game unplayable when I cant turn off anything



Fixed internally this morning, testing just started.

EDIT: Incidentally, all reports I have seen so far use the old camera - it is possible that using the new camera might be a workaround for this issue, maybe give that a go?



The fact that so many players are not using and do not want to use the "new camera" should give you an idea about how well liked the new camera is.

Just my thoughts
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#283 - 2016-04-28 13:33:42 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Gary Bell wrote:
Any idea when your gonna sort out this BS with modules..?

It is making the game unplayable when I cant turn off anything



Fixed internally this morning, testing just started.

EDIT: Incidentally, all reports I have seen so far use the old camera - it is possible that using the new camera might be a workaround for this issue, maybe give that a go?


I will only use the new camera when both the following things happen:
1. It is no longer an option to use the old camera.
2. The default settings for the new camera are as close as possible to the functionality I get from the old camera.

PS - maybe there is a reason everyone is using the old camera? Did you consider that? The most common comments I heard on comms yesterday were:
1. "My MWD won't turn off. This is weird."
2. "Great. Now I have to turn off the new camera. Again. For like the third time."

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Scotsman Howard
S0utherN Comfort
#284 - 2016-04-28 13:35:35 UTC
DHuncan wrote:


Hell, no, and specially not by being pushed, what about we give a go at fixing it?


First off, the new camera is basically the same functionality as the old one by changing 1 or two settings.

2nd, a dev gives you an idea for a temporary fix, you should probably give it a go or stop posting in the issues thread.

They have dozens of issues to fix, and they will get around to it. Your problem is not the biggest one out there right now, so in the meantime try one of the following:

- Try the TEMPORARY fix the dev gave you and be grateful that a Dev actually took time to respond to you.
- Don't try the fix and not post a self centered post on the forum AND still be grateful a Dev took time to respond to you.
- Get angry that a Dev did not drop everything they were doing and fix your ONE problem first instead of trying to look at all the problems in the bigger picture, contract all your stuff to someone, extract all your skillpoints, biomass your character, and go win Eve.
Circumstantial Evidence
#285 - 2016-04-28 13:36:23 UTC
CaesarGREG wrote:
Its somthing still Wrong beetwen Sales tax and broker Fee why ? Because Sales Tax 1.0% it shows after skills , and base broker fee 3.0% its showed without skills! before citadel both values was aftter skills without standings.
You may be correct, I think broker fee value displayed on Orders tab should be 2.5%, for characters with Broker Relations level 5.
CCP Fozzie wrote:
3% Broker’s Fee
• Reduced to 2.5% with skills and 2% with both skills and max NPC standings
PAPULA
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#286 - 2016-04-28 13:45:42 UTC
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
PAPULA wrote:
3. I tried new camera but sometimes it doesn't center my ship it goes far away and i can't even see my ship unless i switch to old camera and then press "Look at my ship"
If you go into ESC menu / Display and Graphics tab, look for checkbox " Dynamic Center Offset" (main problem you have) and "Dynamic Field of View" - if both of these are un-checked, new camera behaves more like old camera.

Thanks.

hmm i don't know why it turned on but i had it off yesterday.
Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S
Affirmative.
#287 - 2016-04-28 13:51:08 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Cerlestes wrote:
2. Jumping to another jump clone costs you 900k ISK fee for "installing a jump clone".


The latter is by design and documented in the patch notes, albeit poorly. I have requested this be amended to be less confusing.

This has got to be one of the worst changes in this Patch/Expansion.

I can understand increasing the Installation cost of Jump Clone to 900k, heck even the original 5M would have been fine, But 900k EVERY TIME THAT YOU JUMP BETWEEN CLONES!!!!!!! That's insane.
DHuncan
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#288 - 2016-04-28 13:55:18 UTC
Scotsman Howard wrote:
DHuncan wrote:


Hell, no, and specially not by being pushed, what about we give a go at fixing it?


First off, the new camera is basically the same functionality as the old one by changing 1 or two settings.

2nd, a dev gives you an idea for a temporary fix, you should probably give it a go or stop posting in the issues thread.

They have dozens of issues to fix, and they will get around to it. Your problem is not the biggest one out there right now, so in the meantime try one of the following:

- Try the TEMPORARY fix the dev gave you and be grateful that a Dev actually took time to respond to you.
- Don't try the fix and not post a self centered post on the forum AND still be grateful a Dev took time to respond to you.
- Get angry that a Dev did not drop everything they were doing and fix your ONE problem first instead of trying to look at all the problems in the bigger picture, contract all your stuff to someone, extract all your skill points, biomass your character, and go win Eve.


What an idiotic comment, seriously. Have you read the bunch of comments asking for the same issue that are just before your remarks? A "do not use the feature" is not a temporary fix. Asking the intended thing to work is not self centered, is an issue concerning a feature that doesnt work. Developers did not answer to me but at this point is clear you dont know how to read a forum. I did never get angry nor I pressed for any issue to be fixed in any amount of time, I simply stated I refuse to use a feature I dont like cause the one should be working is not. Biomass my character? WTF... as said before... what an idiotic comment. Seriously.

What did you say about CODE?
Sergey Hawk
The Sith Syndicate
REFORD
#289 - 2016-04-28 14:04:35 UTC
Stew Muldonian wrote:

The fact that so many players are not using and do not want to use the "new camera" should give you an idea about how well liked the new camera is.

CCP sometimes remind me bureaucrats from FIA.
- Formula 1 has a bad format of qualifications. We invented better new qualification, let's change everything.
After GP with new qualification
- Well, shi... People say that the old format was better and more interesting. The teams say the same thing. But not so easy to take and return everything as it was. It was a DECISION! To cancel a DECISION, we need to gather council twice, and vote for the repeal.

Just replace "Formula 1" with "EVE Online" and "qualification" with "camera" And you will not find any difference.

Aura: "You need to be within range to execute this function."

Kimi Räikkönen: “Leave me alone, I know what I’m doing.”
Circumstantial Evidence
#290 - 2016-04-28 14:04:57 UTC
Caldari 5 wrote:
I can understand increasing the Installation cost of Jump Clone to 900k, heck even the original 5M would have been fine, But 900k EVERY TIME THAT YOU JUMP BETWEEN CLONES!!!!!!! That's insane.
Carrots and sticks with this update, to encourage the proliferation of citadels with clone services, so ppl can get away from this tax.
PAPULA
The Chodak
Void Alliance
#291 - 2016-04-28 14:06:56 UTC
Caldari 5 wrote:
I can understand increasing the Installation cost of Jump Clone to 900k, heck even the original 5M would have been fine, But 900k EVERY TIME THAT YOU JUMP BETWEEN CLONES!!!!!!! That's insane.

And that's why i am no longer jumping clones, if i am not near i am simply not going there.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#292 - 2016-04-28 14:08:52 UTC
Folks lets please keep the comments in this thread strictly limited to reporting issues, not debating issues or designs or implementation, just "this bug is occurring and I didn't see it on the list in the OP so I thought I'd let you know about it in case you didn't already". There are plenty of threads to discuss the other things already.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Joseph Lucen
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#293 - 2016-04-28 14:09:27 UTC
CCP Goliath wrote:
Joseph Lucen wrote:
Hi.. I don't know if this has happened to more people, but tried a Relic Site and the Relic analyzer didn't work. I activated it on the scattered container and nothing happened. The hacking window doesnt appear at all. Did a data site and that one worked with the data analyzer.


We are investigating this now, it seems to be a non-100% issue that affects anything that uses the hacking minigame. Once we have a solid repro (very close, just passed the defect over to someone with a lead) it will get added to the list and promptly fixed.


Thanks for the update!! Being a SW Engineer myself I know how hard is to try get it all 100% when so many changes and a schedule have to be followed...
mrjknyazev
College of Winterhold
Honorable Third Party
#294 - 2016-04-28 14:10:52 UTC
Not sure if this was mentioned, but drone navigation skill currently gives only 5% mwd speed bonus to regular drones on level 5 (don't know about other levels, i have this skill maxed on all of my characters).
Adia Infinity
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#295 - 2016-04-28 14:23:03 UTC
My item hangar in stations closes every time i undock and redock. Tried clearing cache, nothing works. Started since the patch yesterday.
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#296 - 2016-04-28 14:33:27 UTC
mrjknyazev wrote:
Not sure if this was mentioned, but drone navigation skill currently gives only 5% mwd speed bonus to regular drones on level 5 (don't know about other levels, i have this skill maxed on all of my characters).


No mention of this one yet, but I just reproduced it on Sisi and have filed it. Thanks for the report!

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
Etienne Picard
Knights of the Posing Meat
#297 - 2016-04-28 15:34:51 UTC
Commander A9 wrote:
Hopped into my mission battleship.

Suddenly discovered that I am unable to stop cycling afterburners, nosferatus, and even my reppers and autocannons until the target is dead/unlocked or I go into warp.

This is not going to be good...



Yup, sounds like loads of people (me included) are having issues deactivating active modules. Unfortunately this makes the game unplayable, so I guess I'll just go play world of warships till CCP fix it.
CaesarGREG
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#298 - 2016-04-28 15:35:42 UTC
Circumstantial Evidence wrote:
CaesarGREG wrote:
Its somthing still Wrong beetwen Sales tax and broker Fee why ? Because Sales Tax 1.0% it shows after skills , and base broker fee 3.0% its showed without skills! before citadel both values was aftter skills without standings.
You may be correct, I think broker fee value displayed on Orders tab should be 2.5%, for characters with Broker Relations level 5.
CCP Fozzie wrote:
3% Broker’s Fee
• Reduced to 2.5% with skills and 2% with both skills and max NPC standings


yes should be displayed 2.5% but its displayed 3% and i have max trade skills
Abby Silverwind
Demonic Retribution
Shadow Ultimatum
#299 - 2016-04-28 15:38:20 UTC
Off button for the awful distracting tv screens that nail my fps in hanger seems to be missing in the general settings

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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#300 - 2016-04-28 15:41:41 UTC
We just deployed a client fix that is targeted at the overview not updating, and two of the issues with the old camera.


  • When using the old camera, module buttons fail to allow deactivating modules after a jump. Workaround: Switch to the new camera for a moment.
  • Buttons to the left hand side of the HUD will not show at login if the old camera is selected and no active modules are fitted to your ship
  • The overview may fail to refresh correctly while in space.


These fixes will require a relog to get (client version 1035137) and the overview one is speculative as we have no internal repro of the issue, but we thought it best to try and get a possible fix out and iterate further on it, than spend more time trying to get a repro while the live environment suffers. Please let us know if you are experiencing any of these issues from client version 1053517 onward, either in this thread or via bug report.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath