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My ratting carrier got tackled .. well done CCP
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RuthAD
Deaf Eaters
#1 - 2016-04-28 10:01:22 UTC
Last night I was ratting away idiotically not paying attention to intel. A hostile fleet was one jump out and I was oblivious.

A ceptor jumps in and tackles me before I can warp my fat **** out. Pre-patch I would have been more or less screwed, unable to refit and using a not very good fit for defending myself.

Local jumps by around 10-15 hostiles, at this point I'm cursing myself for not watching intel and pretty much given up. I have one squadron of fighters hopelessly chasing a ceptor, then the hostile fleet lands on me. I overheat my rep and hardeners in a vein attempt to last longer.

Then I throw the dice, I recall all fighters, lock up all targets and decide to try and put them all on the biggest DPS ships they have to try and last long enough for a defence fleet to form.

BANG - my first target is an oracle which instapops as my fighters launch their new weapons after almost immediately reaching him with their MWD's. I pull back my fighters and repeat on an orthorus. BANG. Then the gila ... BANG. All three instapopped. At this point the remaining fleet decided it was a bad idea to stick around and they removed themselves from system leaving me to warp safely away with a slight smile spread across my face.

Congratulations CCP. Carriers once again can proudly hold their own against a small fleet, instead of slowly dying unable to do anything once a ceptor tackles them.
Caldari Citizen 115-16-18737
Doomheim
#2 - 2016-04-28 10:06:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Caldari Citizen 115-16-18737
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Henry Plantgenet
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-04-28 10:33:46 UTC
damnit i keep reading sarcastic overtones where there are none...
Although a carrier being able to whipe out a fleet several times its worth seems....Strange at best.

So Carriers: 1 Dreadnoughts: -1?
RuthAD
Deaf Eaters
#4 - 2016-04-28 10:41:34 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
damnit i keep reading sarcastic overtones where there are none...
Although a carrier being able to whipe out a fleet several times its worth seems....Strange at best.

So Carriers: 1 Dreadnoughts: -1?


Their entire fleet was probably worth twice as much as my carrier and I only killed 3 of them, worth around 700m, so I don't think it's strange. How many multi billion carriers have been killed by a couple of hundred mil of crap fleets over the past couple of years?
Aluanna
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2016-04-28 10:46:04 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
damnit i keep reading sarcastic overtones where there are none...
Although a carrier being able to whipe out a fleet several times its worth seems....Strange at best.

So Carriers: 1 Dreadnoughts: -1?


Uhh.. the carrier only took out a Oracle, an orthus and a Gila... not exactly several times the carriers worth...

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2016-04-28 11:16:55 UTC
Good story. Glad to hear these changes have some positive effects.

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Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#7 - 2016-04-28 11:27:59 UTC
Cool story Smile

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#8 - 2016-04-28 12:23:17 UTC
Excellent to hear that, well done in going for it and excellent result, I will love using carriers now.

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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2016-04-28 12:37:44 UTC
What fighters, weapons did you use? Where you able to hit the interceptors?

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Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2016-04-28 12:50:30 UTC
I've been throwing subcaps against capitals on the test server. (I forgot I had my own carrier account subbed. goons don't log in their caps you see.)

A couple of carriers can alpha battlecruisers and battleships quite easily. Unsupported capitals running around is going to be a thing. The big boys no longer need subcap support.

Feature working as intended, I think.

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Tomika
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-04-28 12:52:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tomika
Where is the evidence that this actually occurred? Or did I fail to detect extreme sarcasm?
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2016-04-28 12:53:56 UTC
Tomika wrote:
Where is the evidence that this actually occurred? Or did I fail to detect extreme sarcasm?


I believe him. Carriers are that good now.

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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-04-28 12:55:27 UTC
Came in expecting tears, entitlement, gameplay mechanic ignorace and general whining got competence instead. Something is wrong GD! I SHOULD BE SEEING WHININGS ABOUT HOW HIS CARRIER DIED TO SOMETHING!

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Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#14 - 2016-04-28 13:04:35 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Came in expecting tears, entitlement, gameplay mechanic ignorace and general whining got competence instead. Something is wrong GD! I SHOULD BE SEEING WHININGS ABOUT HOW HIS CARRIER DIED TO SOMETHING!

I seen a killmail of a Chimera being killed by a NPC dread. Smile

That being said: Good story, glad to see that carriers seems to work.

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Tomika
Doomheim
#15 - 2016-04-28 13:36:29 UTC
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Tomika wrote:
Where is the evidence that this actually occurred? Or did I fail to detect extreme sarcasm?


I believe him. Carriers are that good now.


Hmm. Goon... Minerbumping link in sig... still not convinced P
Sp3ktr3
The Regency
The Monarchy
#16 - 2016-04-28 14:44:43 UTC
I approve. Carriers are good again.
Amyclas Amatin
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#17 - 2016-04-28 15:18:07 UTC
Tomika wrote:
Amyclas Amatin wrote:
Tomika wrote:
Where is the evidence that this actually occurred? Or did I fail to detect extreme sarcasm?


I believe him. Carriers are that good now.


Hmm. Goon... Minerbumping link in sig... still not convinced P


Maybe the fact that I'm a goon and I have carriers too will convince ccp to nerf them. Big smile

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Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
#18 - 2016-04-28 15:19:58 UTC
I'm not all that familiar with captials so this is kind of a silly question...

Is this the proper balance?

Should a carrier or other capital ship just be able to quickly down something close in size? (I would think a battleship would qualify as a capital ship just from the modern definition of a capital ship. Maybe it doesn't apply in EVE.)

As a relation, in a modern wet Navy, a carrier is most certainly vulnerable to even a cheap diesel submarine. This is whey they have large escort fleets to sweep the seas and skies clear of threats before they can land on the carrier.

If carriers are intended to be able to fly solo and be highly dangerous, then yes it sounds like it's balanced. If they are supposed to have a need for logistic or support ships around them, it sounds like the pendulum may have swung too far the other way.

So I guess the real question is, what is the intent of these super capital ships?

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Super Miguel
Trillium Invariant
Honorable Third Party
#19 - 2016-04-28 15:39:46 UTC
Whats your fit?
Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#20 - 2016-04-28 15:56:07 UTC
KM or it didn't happen.

Also, as this OP cannot be found on any killboards I'm assuming this was on an alt??
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