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[FINISHED] Want to pawn / use as loan collateral, to invest in patch.

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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#21 - 2016-04-23 12:13:37 UTC
Would CCP have any objections to this, from an EULA POV? I myself can't see any, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't any :D

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#22 - 2016-04-23 15:33:23 UTC
lanyaie wrote:
http://lanyaie.com/20169493.png

I doubt anyone actually offering you an uncollaterized loan is being serious besides wanting to know what you found.

The most serious offer is the one posted in this thread by Elizabeth Norn from what I can see. Also lol at "manager" being required Roll

Currently I'd just wait to see and if you don't get your goal, sell what you found to someone else to make money of of it.



"manager" was just a joke term that someone used when I was told the plan, something like "So I guess that Rhiv is your manager now"

In reality, all I am doing is batting questions from people going "WHATS THE SEKRIT", and replying to mails because eve mail on a phone is really bad for formatting and reading :p
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#23 - 2016-04-24 20:59:13 UTC
Offer has been taken up by May Darkb at 240bil. Getting things ready for the transfer now.

440bil will be returned by May 24th in exchange for my characters back.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#24 - 2016-04-26 20:17:50 UTC
May Darkb wrote:

Hey there,

I am pretty good, finally become sober now. I am going to send isk. 240 millions right?

Oh, wait, that's 240 BILLIONS?! But I only have 240m in my pant's pocket, wait again, I am not wearing pants. Will you accept 240m as loan lol? If yes, I will use it to buy all your characters out of mercy. :)

omg, what terrible things have I done. I just ruined you auction with several mails. I shut down your broadcast for rep, neutralized your time, I am sooo sorry for that. Now your time is less than 20 hrs, and you have no way to get a loan. You have to melt down your toons, by your hand, in tears. I must have destroyed a squad of titans and ******** their pilots' minds.

So what should I say? op success lol. I will remember this killmail even after quitting eve. I am ready for that this time.


Okay then. Back to the original plan: going to just manually extract everything.

May Darkb, your actually was success. Having all those alts drop corp, pause their skill queues, and then post in the thread through the "your account is younger than a week, and so you have to wait 5 minutes between posts" filter was incredibly painful. I never want to go through that again.
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#25 - 2016-04-26 20:25:44 UTC
Nixarat Syfodias
Phantasm Rtd.
#26 - 2016-04-26 20:35:39 UTC
I'm investing 5b. I expect 10b to be returned by May 3rd. Isk transferred to the character probag Bear. Probag, please confirm receipt of isk.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#27 - 2016-04-26 20:38:31 UTC
Nixarat Syfodias wrote:
I'm investing 5b. I expect 10b to be returned by May 3rd. Isk transferred to the character probag Bear. Probag, please confirm receipt of isk.


Confirmed.
I will post when I return your 10b.
Karin Yang
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#28 - 2016-04-26 20:40:04 UTC
lol, actually you may still get some loan from me.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#29 - 2016-04-26 20:45:47 UTC
Karin Yang wrote:
lol, actually you may still get some loan from me.


For the characters? Please yes. I don't want to have gone through the work of setting up that hellish thread for nothing.
PM me.
Thermal Damage
Star Nation
Goonswarm Federation
#30 - 2016-04-26 20:48:26 UTC
My offer still stands

I was found guilty of Nitshe by the CoCaP

Karin Yang
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2016-04-26 20:50:54 UTC
probag Bear wrote:
Karin Yang wrote:
lol, actually you may still get some loan from me.


For the characters? Please yes. I don't want to have gone through the work of setting up that hellish thread for nothing.
PM me.

PMed
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#32 - 2016-04-27 21:21:59 UTC  |  Edited by: probag Bear
As Tuesday dragged on, I reverted to my bitter self and grew more and more disillusioned with the world. I ended up turning my pre-patch alarm off and going back to sleep, so eventually, I only had time to throw about 70bil into this. 70bil multiplied still isn't bad, but it's definitely not story-worthy.

My mistake was telling rhivre about this. That made me feel obligated to treat the entire matter with at least an air of seriousness, instead of just shooting the **** and teasing people about it like I had originally planned. Not to say that I wasn't feeling the temptation to treat this seriously regardless. I just would not have acted on it. Wouldn't have lost any sleep, wouldn't be feeling any disappointment right now, would've extracted all my sp without actually trying to pawn it instead.

Going to pay rhivre and Nixarat after I get some sleep, then go away until manufacturing structures get added into the game.

May Darkb, thank you for being a ray of hope in that otherwise terrible yesterday. You actually cheered me up quite a bit; without your stunt, if everything else had gone identically, I don't think I would've actually bothered to wake up before the patch and try to throw at least a bit of isk at it.

tl;dr: "probag's really quite bitter right now that he didn't manage to successfully scam anyone"
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#33 - 2016-04-27 22:46:45 UTC
probag Bear wrote:
As Tuesday dragged on, I reverted to my bitter self and grew more and more disillusioned with the world. I ended up turning my pre-patch alarm off and going back to sleep, so eventually, I only had time to throw about 70bil into this. 70bil multiplied still isn't bad, but it's definitely not story-worthy.

My mistake was telling rhivre about this. That made me feel obligated to treat the entire matter with at least an air of seriousness, instead of just shooting the **** and teasing people about it like I had originally planned. Not to say that I wasn't feeling the temptation to treat this seriously regardless. I just would not have acted on it. Wouldn't have lost any sleep, wouldn't be feeling any disappointment right now, would've extracted all my sp without actually trying to pawn it instead.

Going to pay rhivre and Nixarat after I get some sleep, then go away until manufacturing structures get added into the game.

May Darkb, thank you for being a ray of hope in that otherwise terrible yesterday. You actually cheered me up quite a bit; without your stunt, if everything else had gone identically, I don't think I would've actually bothered to wake up before the patch and try to throw at least a bit of isk at it.

tl;dr: "probag's really quite bitter right now that he didn't manage to successfully scam anyone"



Its so much storyworthy.
probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#34 - 2016-04-27 23:14:10 UTC
10bil sent to Nixarat.
Zahara Cody
Imperial Corrections Service.
#35 - 2016-04-28 00:45:30 UTC
That's too bad. I really had 10 tril to throw at this.

Hating is free, that's why poor people do it the best.

probag Bear
Xiong Offices
#36 - 2016-04-28 01:05:51 UTC
Zahara Cody wrote:
That's too bad. I really had 10 tril to throw at this.


That would definitely have made people notice post-patch. Alas. Maybe if we had had more concurrent online time, we could've actually gone through with the 3rd party idea.
Sammy Jaay
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#37 - 2016-04-28 04:13:31 UTC
So, let me get this right. There was no great ability to multiply your isk? And this was indeed a scam?
May Darkb
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#38 - 2016-04-28 04:50:43 UTC
probag Bear wrote:
May Darkb wrote:

Hey there,

I am pretty good, finally become sober now. I am going to send isk. 240 millions right?

Oh, wait, that's 240 BILLIONS?! But I only have 240m in my pant's pocket, wait again, I am not wearing pants. Will you accept 240m as loan lol? If yes, I will use it to buy all your characters out of mercy. :)

omg, what terrible things have I done. I just ruined you auction with several mails. I shut down your broadcast for rep, neutralized your time, I am sooo sorry for that. Now your time is less than 20 hrs, and you have no way to get a loan. You have to melt down your toons, by your hand, in tears. I must have destroyed a squad of titans and ******** their pilots' minds.

So what should I say? op success lol. I will remember this killmail even after quitting eve. I am ready for that this time.


Okay then. Back to the original plan: going to just manually extract everything.

May Darkb, your actually was success. Having all those alts drop corp, pause their skill queues, and then post in the thread through the "your account is younger than a week, and so you have to wait 5 minutes between posts" filter was incredibly painful. I never want to go through that again.

I should have said "plz move them all to Rens, and I would loan you 500m more for each one you moved" :)
Nixarat Syfodias
Phantasm Rtd.
#39 - 2016-04-28 12:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Nixarat Syfodias
Confirm recieving 10b back.

edit: I might be the only person in EVE who actually got his isk doubled xD
Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#40 - 2016-05-02 23:14:49 UTC
https://www.themittani.com/features/plex-wall-incident carries an explanation of what was going on... well, I say "explanation" but frankly the step where one actually turns a profit eludes me. At the end "You now have about 0 ISK in your wallet, and buy orders for a total of 250,000 PLEX on the market" - all of which will evaporate as soon as they are touched because you have no ISK to back them up. (Even if you retained a modest quantity, you'll never fill all 250,000 or anything like it).

Someone explain it to me?
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