EVE General Discussion

I'm sorry, what?


Just because you like playing internet detective (don't get me wrong, it's fun!) are you seriously suggesting CCP should actively track people down to their real life places of work/residence, matching and tracing CC numbers, spying on what cars they own through Google Earth and god knows what else, just because they choose to sell some internet pixels?

Regardless of what the EULA says, RMTers commit no RL crime. I await someone to give a link stating the the opposite is true... Sure, CCP might not like RMT, but please don't forget that they don't have the power or indeed the mandate (from anyone) to do **** like this.


Nice post though! :)

Actually, in keeping with the constantly touted "risk vs. reward" principle of EVE, CCP should track them down... and execute them for crimes against the game community! Now THAT would be "Risk vs. Reward" !

Ah yes. the old "no you" retort. How refreshing.

Nice spin. Inaccurate but it did the job. You were able to remove all the valid points and condense it to something you could attack.

Gratz, you pass propaganda 101

Actually, they do possess the power to do this. Anyone (in the US, at any rate) can use publicly available information to track down another person. It's not an illegal or even unethical thing to do, unless the information so obtained is used for illegal purposes, such as: harassment, identity theft, burglary, invasion of privacy (determining someone's name, address, phone number, place of residence and vehicle doesn't qualify), and so on.

I'd say they have every right, from both a legal and ethical standpoint, to follow an Internet breadcrumb trail, identify an RMTer, link them to their EVE account(s), and then terminate their service. They may already be doing this on occasion and we just don't know about it, but as others have pointed out, RMT is not a problem that can ever be eradicated.

For all those people who truly believe that alliances are involved in RMT.. now is the time to put up or shut up.

there is not some big conspiracy involving CCP

He went to Russia along with his father and his friend Magnús Þorsteinsson.

A report published in Denmark noted that the Committee on External Economic Relations in Saint Petersburg Mayor's office was responsible for foreigners. The committee's chairman was Vladimir Putin between 1991 and 1996.[2]

The Icelandic businessmen, together with Russian partners, founded bottling company Baltic Bottling Plant, which was sold to Pepsi. Next they founded a brewing company. ООО "Торговый дом "РОСА" was registered in March 1995 and changed its name to Bravo OOO in February 1996 (address was also changed). It further changed its name to Bravo International OOO in August 1996 and Bravo International JSC in December 1997.[2] Founders of Bravo were six companies registered in Limassol, Cyprus - Björgólfsson was president of all of them.[2] Bravo Brewery became a success on the premium beer Botchkarov.

An article in The Guardian (2005) wondered where Björgólfsson's money comes from and noted that in the 1990s the Icelanders "were not only ploughing money into the country but doing it in the city regarded as the Russian mafia capital. That investment was being made in the drinks sector, seen by the mafia as the industry of choice."[3] Competitors in the Saint Petersburg brewing market faced problems. For instance, Ilya Weismann, deputy director of competing beverage company Baltic, was assassinated on January 10, 2000. Later Baltic director general Aslanbek Chochiev was also assassinated. One competing Saint Petersburg brewery burned to the ground.[2][3]

The company became the fastest growing brewery in Russia. Heineken bought the brewery for $400m in 2002.[2][4]

He returned to Iceland to gain interest in numerous ventures there. [such as a 30% stake in CCP]

dude, the Russian connection is obvious.


Forgot about the reason why CCP showed up in that Illuminati thread on AboveTopSecret but you should check that out, too.

You only don't see the conspiracy because you don't want to see it.

And a quick look through at least one RMT site I dug through will find several Titans available at approx. US$1600 each (just one example).

Last I heard, this required a CSAA in nullsec and given the cook time, support of the alliance holding the CSAA. If this is not proof of 0.0 alliance/s being involved then I'd be eager to hear how not.