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Existing market orders and the new tax rate
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Cristl
#1 - 2016-04-25 15:38:10 UTC
What happens to existing market orders after Wednesday's patch?

Are they all automagically set to the new tax and broker rates, or will existing orders keep their current rates (unlikely, but you never know).
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#2 - 2016-04-25 15:41:55 UTC
I would be shocked and dismayed if additional taxes or fees were assessed retroactively. Put your orders up now.

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Moac Tor
Cyber Core
Immediate Destruction
#3 - 2016-04-25 17:13:24 UTC
The broker fee is paid upon listing the item, and so if the order is placed before the patch then the broker fee will almost definitely be the original lower fee.

The sales tax is paid upon the sale value when the item is sold, and so I expect that will be at the new higher rate although am not 100% certain.
W33b3l
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-04-25 20:15:07 UTC
Is this in a dev blog? I missed it.

Great more Isk down the drain.
Sustrai Aditua
Intandofisa
#5 - 2016-04-25 21:07:36 UTC
Yeah. CCP is going to drain your wallet while you sleep.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-04-25 22:35:45 UTC
Moac Tor wrote:
The broker fee is paid upon listing the item, and so if the order is placed before the patch then the broker fee will almost definitely be the original lower fee.

The sales tax is paid upon the sale value when the item is sold, and so I expect that will be at the new higher rate although am not 100% certain.
Common sense would suggest this.

Maybe it's somewhere in the dev post if you can be bothered to check.

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Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#7 - 2016-04-25 22:47:44 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Moac Tor wrote:
The broker fee is paid upon listing the item, and so if the order is placed before the patch then the broker fee will almost definitely be the original lower fee.

The sales tax is paid upon the sale value when the item is sold, and so I expect that will be at the new higher rate although am not 100% certain.
Common sense would suggest this.

Maybe it's somewhere in the dev post if you can be bothered to check.


I'm more interested in what happens if you place an order today and adjust it after the 27th.
Wexiz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2016-04-26 02:02:18 UTC
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
Yeah. CCP is going to drain your wallet while you sleep.



More tax, still gives me one more reason not to bother with the game.
Ms Biatchy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2016-04-26 10:48:07 UTC
Wexiz wrote:
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
Yeah. CCP is going to drain your wallet while you sleep.



More tax, still gives me one more reason not to bother with the game.



That extra 2.5% is a killer.

Can I has ur stuffz?
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-04-26 10:50:08 UTC
Wexiz wrote:
Sustrai Aditua wrote:
Yeah. CCP is going to drain your wallet while you sleep.



More tax, still gives me one more reason not to bother with the game.

Really? A pretend tax on pretend money in a pretend galaxy set more than 20,000 years into the future. 2.5% is really that important?

That's some first World issue.

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Wexiz
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-04-27 04:06:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Wexiz
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2016-04-27 11:16:26 UTC
Taxation happens when items are sold, you pay 1-2% after the patch for filling existing orders (not that of a big deal with current numbers 0.75% vs. 1% at perfect skills). Broker fee was paid when setting up the order, if you lower the price later nothing should happen (unless they stealth raised the minimum change fee), if you raise the price, the new broker fee will take effect (for the difference).

The broker fee is the problem here as it is a direct penalty to market's trade volume and liquidity, for me it's 0.66% -> ~2.3% ... 3.5x the costs to setup orders. Not that game breaking as the first proposal, but it was declared a first iteration only ...

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