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Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2016-04-25 21:44:32 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:
He actually did he was the first person to donate. Please guys if you don't have constructive criticism stop just posting for the sake of posting so far i've been called all sorts of things.


constructive: stop begging and dont build what you cant afford to lose

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#42 - 2016-04-25 21:52:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Shae Tadaruwa
Sudri Namian wrote:
However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking.

I did read it. That's why I said you have no clue.

You lack understanding of the loot drop mechanics of Citadels inside J-Space, you don't currently own the wormhole you plan on erecting a Citadel in, you lack understanding of what rights building a Citadel gives you (eg. it does not prevent POSs from being erected in the same hole. The only thing that will stop that is the end of the year when CCP stop POSs from being built anywhere, but then someone could just put up a rival Citadel/Manufacturing array/Mining Array/etc. in the same hole). You also seem to have little clue about the ways in which these can be attacked and don't even know who HK is.

Overall, your plan is little more than a pipe dream laid out in a forum thread, with no substance to support it; and people who might see this thread and consider investing should have access to that information as it may affect their decision to donate to your begging drive.

As to posting links containing chat logs, I posted a link to eve-search to this forum thread. That is not against the rules and has been done many, many times without issue in these forums (rule 35 is about posting chat logs outside C&P, not about posting links to forum threads) .

Putting bounties to kill something is very much allowed. There are even game mechanics around doing exactly that (they aren't great, but they are there).

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#43 - 2016-04-26 01:58:33 UTC
Citadels = massive content creators for eve

May many be built in many circumstances

carpe diem

"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#44 - 2016-04-26 08:26:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Sudri Namian
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
Sudri Namian wrote:
However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking.

I did read it. That's why I said you have no clue.

You lack understanding of the loot drop mechanics of Citadels inside J-Space, you don't currently own the wormhole you plan on erecting a Citadel in, you lack understanding of what rights building a Citadel gives you (eg. it does not prevent POSs from being erected in the same hole. The only thing that will stop that is the end of the year when CCP stop POSs from being built anywhere, but then someone could just put up a rival Citadel/Manufacturing array/Mining Array/etc. in the same hole). You also seem to have little clue about the ways in which these can be attacked and don't even know who HK is.

Overall, your plan is little more than a pipe dream laid out in a forum thread, with no substance to support it; and people who might see this thread and consider investing should have access to that information as it may affect their decision to donate to your begging drive.

As to posting links containing chat logs, I posted a link to eve-search to this forum thread. That is not against the rules and has been done many, many times without issue in these forums (rule 35 is about posting chat logs outside C&P, not about posting links to forum threads) .

Putting bounties to kill something is very much allowed. There are even game mechanics around doing exactly that (they aren't great, but they are there).



1.Stop hiding behind alts show us who your main character is
2.The confusion about loot drop mechanics you are saying i have no clue about was something to be sorted out by ccp as the patch notes came out it's clearly visible that loot inside wormholes when citadel is drops.
3. The fact is your sole purpose in this is thread is to discredit the whole project by making posts fom multiple characters on the same accounts you are using and you are trying to grasp for straws.
4 It's my project and i will continue to raise funds and fufill my dream nomather how much hate the idea or the person behind it. It's also a fact that even tho there is another project with similar goals and outlined and planed exactly the same way you only sperg your hate here which leads me to belive you are actually either involved in it or invested in it and trying to protect your investment.
CowQueen MMXII
#45 - 2016-04-26 09:06:00 UTC
Sudri Namian wrote:

1.Stop hiding behind alts show us who your main character is


Shouldn't you stop hiding first before demanding this from other people?

And as I expect that your main is a long time and respectable member of the wormhole community, with lots of experience in WH PVP, WH mechanics and organization of WH groups and operations, this would also generate much more confidence in your project.

Sudri Namian wrote:

3. The fact is your sole purpose in this is thread is to discredit the whole project by making posts fom multiple characters on the same accounts you are using and you are trying to grasp for straws.


The straws are more like ropes or chains. You radiate an aura of cluelessness and naivety...
No idea how mechanics work, no idea how to fund this thing (except begging), no idea how to defend that thing, no background information about you to back up that you could pull something like this off - you even failed to post this in on of the appropriate forum sections.

Sudri Namian wrote:

4 It's my project and i will continue to raise funds and fufill my dream nomather how much hate the idea or the person behind it.

Raising funds for something you seem incapable of doing = scam. But good luck with that.



Moo! Uddersucker, moo!
BIGDOG4
State War Academy
Caldari State
#46 - 2016-04-26 09:50:11 UTC  |  Edited by: BIGDOG4
Look Sudri you are doing this wrong.

What you need to do is stop feeding those trolls. Nomather what you do or say those guys will allways beat up arround the bush and call everything bs. They don't care about the community they are vultures.
They are trying to provoke you saying something they can report or try to win sumpathy from others. Even if you always have the right arguments it's fighting a loosing battle becuase they will always calim that your arguments are not valid.
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#47 - 2016-04-26 10:20:15 UTC
BIGDOG4 wrote:
Look Sudri you are doing this wrong.

What you need to do is stop feeding those trolls. Nomather what you do or say those guys will allways beat up arround the bush and call everything bs. They don't care about the community they are vultures.
They are trying to provoke you saying something they can report or try to win sumpathy from others. Even if you always have the right arguments it's fighting a loosing battle becuase they will always calim that your arguments are not valid.

Troll is such an overused word in this forum. Why does having a strong opinion equate to being a troll?

Additionally, troll is a term most often used in reference to people that reply, yet it is just as likely that the OP is the troll. After all, this is not posted in the right forum, is essentially begging the community for ISK and if you go to the eve-search history you'll see the real qualities of the OP telling another player to go kill themself.

However, I would prefer to think the OP is just naive and doesn't really have the capability to do this. Ultimately though, if you watch the Citadel trailer, more than half of it covers attacking a Citadel. These things are meant to bring content to the game. Conflict around them is not a troll. It's the whole reason Capitals are being rebalanced and all new modules and ships introduced. Conflict around Citadrls is a good thing, especially in wormholes.

If the OP wants safety, he should stick to highsec for his dream.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
Lugh Crow-Slave
#48 - 2016-04-26 10:34:29 UTC
Sounds like a cash grab to me if you plan to do this come up with the starting capital without handouts and I'll assume its validity

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
lanyaie
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#49 - 2016-04-26 10:59:11 UTC  |  Edited by: lanyaie
I know I'm wasting my time here, but I'm currently supposed to be doing some work and unfortunately, this is the best entertainment I can get. Well, except that I just read a thread where someone posted a link to the site 27bslash6 which was hilarious...back to being on topic though


I am still trying to figure out why I am supposed to kill myself (according to the OP)
Because I am not a supporter of your idea, I am supposed to die?
Why would one fund someone with absolutely no knowledge of the game at all who also happens to be a terrible person? Even if it's not for replying to me, you haven't addressed any of the legitimate questions asked in this thread with a worthy reply.


Sudri Namian wrote:

However keep in mind that posting links containing chatlogs is not allowed on this forum neither is puting bounties to sabotage someone's project i do however encourage you to read what you are actually linking.


It is allowed, I'm not sabotaging your project. Your project goal is to get a citadel created, my goal is to have it destroyed. Your goal succeeding is a precondition for the successof my goal. Having said that, I'm not sabotaging your project, I'm using it as a way to create content.

Spaceprincess

People who put passwords on char bazaar Eveboards are the worst.
BIGDOG4
State War Academy
Caldari State
#50 - 2016-04-26 12:52:47 UTC
Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ?
You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ?
Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up !
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#51 - 2016-04-26 13:02:23 UTC
BIGDOG4 wrote:
Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ?
You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ?
Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up !

No, not at all.

Go to eve search and look at the thread history.

The evidence is quite clear. It's not speculation.

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
BIGDOG4
State War Academy
Caldari State
#52 - 2016-04-26 13:03:23 UTC
Shae Tadaruwa wrote:
BIGDOG4 wrote:
Again and again and again speculations and acusations. Proove it ?
You keep saying its a scam you keep saying player has no knowlege of how the game works based on what ?
Because as far as im concerned his/her word is as good as yours and everyone has a right to have his gaming goals achived.In my eyes i only see someone trying to achive something and you guys gank on him trying to troll him into giving up !

No, not at all.

Go to eve search and look at the thread history.

The evidence is quite clear. It's not speculation.

.
Everyone is entitled to his own opinion you gave yours i gave mine
Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#53 - 2016-04-26 15:01:25 UTC
BIGDOG4 wrote:
...trying to troll him into giving up !

...Goonswarm Federation...
LOL, well done, sir, well done!


Citadels will generate much content, I hope many are built regardless of what may happen.
Are not players responsible for their own isk investment consequences?
Let the games begin!

"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Spacefaring Bastard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#54 - 2016-04-26 15:07:47 UTC
So your opinion, despite the OVERWHELMING evidence, is that this guy is a paragon of truth and intelligence and we should just funnel all the money from other people's dreams into his?

I read the logs. Hell no. Not one shiny isk. Guy has no idea what he's doing beyond "beg until everyone buys my citadel for me!"
Ka Plaa
Doomheim
#55 - 2016-04-26 15:26:11 UTC
If you are addressing me, spacefaring - my opinion is that I don't care if someone is a paragon or not.
I don't care if someone is scamming or not (carpe diem, is my opinion)
I hope many citadels are built by whoever however ...so they can be blown up.
I read the logs also. I won't be contributing my isk...but wish anyone success in building or even scamming in regards to Citadels.
vOv

"The Crowd Is Untruth" - Kierkegaard
Spacefaring Bastard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#56 - 2016-04-26 16:03:02 UTC
My post was directed at The goon in the room. and pretty sure having a goon vouch for your idea is poison.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#57 - 2016-04-26 17:03:43 UTC
Spacefaring Bastard wrote:
My post was directed at The goon in the room. and pretty sure having a goon vouch for your idea is poison.



But is it any more poisonous than having a faceless coward NPC posting alt vouch for you? Enquiring minds want to know

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Niraia
Starcakes
Cynosural Field Theory.
#58 - 2016-04-26 18:38:52 UTC
ISD Gallifreyan wrote:
I have removed a number of posts to this thread containing links to pictures of In-Game Logs and direct posting of In-Game logs.


Is it allowed to continue to inform readers that the OP told a player he disagreed with to kill himself, and provide evidence in the form of a screenshot via evemail on request?

♥
Sudri Namian
Project Freeport Citadel
#59 - 2016-04-27 20:41:23 UTC
Still alive :)
Spacefaring Bastard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#60 - 2016-04-27 23:50:06 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Spacefaring Bastard wrote:
My post was directed at The goon in the room. and pretty sure having a goon vouch for your idea is poison.



But is it any more poisonous than having a faceless coward NPC posting alt vouch for you? Enquiring minds want to know


This is my main. I'm not a social person, and I'm not going to lie, I'm still in the kiddie pool that is highsec until I can put together decent fits.

That may be a while as I focus primarily on industrial efforts. Though I have started working with cloaking and probing and such, so I might just start venturing into lower sec systems soonish.

Don't see much reason to join a corp at this point.

Baby steps yo.