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Why do people assume it's a fear of losing ships?

It has nothing to do with losing ships, although that was an aspect Grath was talking about but mostly unrelated to the topic- I take that back, as it's an alliance's desire not to risk shiny ships.


There's a difference between not wanting to lose your fleet BS, and losing your super.

I can understand the fear of losing a super if someone is dirt poor, then again the adage "don't fly what you can't afford to lose" has been lost somewhere.

I'm rambling, but my point is that this topic isn't about "omg tracking titans cause too many losses and we don't want to drop them with supers." Tracking titans is just the surface of a lack of fleshing out when it comes to capitals and maybe some needed buffs/new modules.

The point I'm trying to make is that non tracking fit titans are much less of a threat to sub caps, and if people are willing to engage titans, they won't be tracking fit, they'll be tank fit, for fear of dying, so if you give people more tools to use against supers, you don't need to nerf things, you need to add other things/buff things so that people want to engage Titans, then the tracking problem works itself out.

I completely agree.

Cyno spooling is fail imo. Its the exact same mechanic as limiting the amount of sub caps that can jump on a gate. And there are many a ghetto baiting corp with gangs who would rage quit if we even entertained that idea...

Infact, I say allow supers to jump without cynos. Introduce a new skill like "Jumpdrive pinpointing" and add a new super cap only module for low or mid slots that would allow fitted supers to jump without cynos.

But I'm probably amongst the 5% of big ship pilots amogst the 95% of small ship eve players who would love to see that.

Mass limitations should stay where they were introduced, with whs.

Holy mother of god you just made half of PL get wood. This would be so awesome, but would compound the problem so much, you would need to introduce this WITH jump spooling or it would be so over powered that your worst nightmares can't possibly come close to what the reality would be.


I do like the idea with spooling though, it would be pretty sweet actually, but how you figured where you land in system would be pretty odd I think.




Dude their HP literally JUST got nerfed, by 20%, thats pretty damn heavy.

The constant nerfing is getting old, expand the game instead of contracting it for once.

I live in Baltimore, we have a PL meet in the general area once a year.

If non-PL are welcome, I hope to come.

So far ideas that have come across (did I miss any?):

1) Capital EWAR modules that work against capitals and supercapitals (possibly not against subcapitals?)
- Nos, neut, TD, damp, web, scram (equiv to focused)

2) Faction capitals with specific EWAR bonuses:
- Guristas jam
- Blood neut (and/or web)
- Serpentis (damp)
- Angel (TP)
- Give the Revanant a TD bonus

3) Cyno spool timer or mass limits.

4) removing cynos and allowing unfocused jumps (what drawback?)

5) Either adding a Tier 2 dread with the ability to track out of siege, or boosting a current dread's tracking

6) possible boost to dread EHP?

All of these seem to encourage capital use, at least in my eyes.

I really would like to see fleets of dreads and carriers returning and throwing themselves at supers.

even if you lost 10 dreads or carriers to a single super, it is still an even battle.

Theres another thread about boosting the combat effectiveness of dreads, I suggest in that one that we add more turrents to dreads, to up their DPS considerably (more than doubling the current output).

I think that would go a long way to helping dreads back onto the field of battle.



My suggestion was either 8 and a siege mod (*making them have the most high slots in EVE) or 7 weapon points and a siege.


Let me show you my 7 torp launching Phoenix, or my 7 blaster Moros.





Actually, you might be shocked at what a rigor fit Levi is capable of, we went over this when deciding what to do with our Levis, who now carry both torp and cruise launchers, cruise to deal with support ships, torps to deal actual damage to structures/caps/supers.

I mean the CDFE rigs aren't really that needed since you have the strongest tank of the titans already.


EDIT: Also rigor fit Levis can fit a full tank, they have no need to drop tank for damage, and while their damage isn't quite as strong against sub caps, the power of the boosted cruise against a webbed/painted target is staggering.

No clue, but they can definitely hit towers now pretty easy, in fact having Daddy doo's Levi on the field makes doing pos shoots so much easier.



Dread thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=56536&find=unread