Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Cant you see that this is the problem?
On the one side you have a single guy, who literally does nothing and risks nothing, and the people on the other side are supposed to change their whole playstyle and center it around that one guy, taking a massive loss in income, and still are not being able to do anything against him, just lower their risk.

This is incredible imbalanced. Probably the most imbalanced situation in this whole game.
One single guy. Doing nothing. Risking nothing. Paying next to nothing. Affects a whole group of people of have absolutely no way of stopping him.

Thing is buddy you are not nullifying the effect of one guy. You are nullifying the effect of the 7 blops BS behind him, or is it a trio of supercarriers. Perhaps it's nothing but a cloaky entosis? You can't nullify anything if you have no notice of what appears.

Yeah that option would be great. too bad he is invincible.

I don't see it as a problem.

We have already gone over the "One single guy. Doing nothing. Risking nothing. Paying next to nothing." quite a bit and it is Bravo Sierra.

Supers?

Yeah, people dropping supers with jump range nerfs and fatigue. Sure.

And yeah, 7 blops BS vs. 6 ishtars...I love how the people arguing for a nerf to cloaks ALWAYS make it so that they can never win.

That cloaked guy MUST have a cyno.
That cloaked guy MUST have an N+1 fleet where N is ALWAYS large enough to ensure victory.
And that cloaked guy who has been logged in for 8 hours already is ALWAYS at his keyboard.

If those three things are always true, here is my advice. Cancel your subscription and uninstall the game.

for the love of God can we stop pretending to be ignorant?

you can't evaluate risk based on whether the guy is afk or not and has a cyno or not because you can't know these things
and if those conditions are met and you start ratting, you have a 100% chance of dying.

and no, countering a drop doesn't work, because if it did, zkillboard wouldn't show the current efficiency for blops. please stop fabricating these skewed arguments, they're useless

PS: your snappy sarcastic replies won't make you look cool. by the numbers, hotdropping has less risk than station trading

Your stupid over-exaggerating won't make you look cool either. Nobody has ever died doing just station trading. People have died during a BLOPs drop. There was even a rather funny article about how a BLOPs gang was nearly wiped out by a guy who was AFK in a carrier and ratting. His gecko's came back and slaughtered the BLOPs gang.

Second, apparently you don't understand statistics. You might have studied it, maybe even use it, but your grasp is quite poor. Yes, a BLOPs is going to have a high efficiency rating. Why? Because it is used to kill **** and pretty much only for PvP. An ishtar or many other ships are used in ways that are not PvP. Also, they tend to go for targets they know they can take. So yeah, they have a high efficiency rating, so what? And there is more than one way to counter something than shooting it. Inducing them to move on to another, softer looking target is a counter.

As for evaluating risk, I detailed how you get a good idea if a guy is AFK or not.

First, do some research you lazy buggers. What TZ is that guy getting his kills in? Are you in his TZ? If not, good chance he is AFK.

Second, if you try to bait him repeatedly....chances are he is AFK. In fact, you could use Bayes theorem to come up with some probabilities.

If you have a high probability he is AFK, then you CAN make a risk assessment.

I describe a situation like this where I have ratted for days in a system with a cloaky camper.

1. He was in a different TZ.
2. After trying to bait him in a very soft target I concluded he was indeed most likely in bed asleep.
3. I ratted day-after-day while he was in system with me. I lost nothing.

And....if you are getting dropped. Nobody is AFK. So, off topic. This is the permanent thread for AFK cloaking, not ATK cloaking.

Not to mention if he is choosing...then he is not AFK. The issue here is not AFK cloaking, these people object to cloaks in general. And the entire point of a cloaking ship is a ship that can get behind enemy lines and muck things up.

Sounds like it is working.

Well I am not objecting to non afk people picking targets, just afk people being invulnerable and requiring nothing like the constant vigilance and constant work of those he aims to hunt. I only want parity of effort. You are clearly and I think deliberately misrepresenting the arguments presented. Perhaps even a small icon appearing on the name to show no input has been made the the client. There we are now all satisfied. If he is not AFK then whats the problem with that?