EVE General Discussion

oh he doesn't care, just looking for a heavy blunt object to bludgeon the rest of us about the head with.

I know if you look at his corp member history, you will see what I did

What you did was make us stronger. Thank you. :)
At least now I know who hired the mercs for future reference. :)

OP I was wardecced for the first 6 months of my eve life.

Want to know what I did?

I spent time training ewar to assist the corp I was in, helped lock down the agressors. We fought, lost some, won some. It was the absolute best of times. Learning from mistakes, honing some semblance of tactics and skills. Skills that have stood me in good stead ever since.

Wardecs just sort the wheat from the chaff. Those capable of handling eve and all the hostility it has to offer stay. Those that whine leave and eve is a better place for it.

I agree (well, not about the watchlist changes - there needs to be some sort of compensatory buff to locator agents to help bounty hunters and mercenaries actually know if their prey is online), wars should be tied to Citadels or other structures in the future. I'd go further and just put all corporation benefits, including taxes and the ability to declare wars, into those structures and then make wars only possible against structure-owning corps and be done with it. You have effectively created two tiers of corps - those with structures (real corps) and those without (social corps) - and hopefully put an end to these never-ending complaints about how unfair an open-world, competitive PvP game is despite the fact that this is suppose to be how it works. You do not get to PvE and do industry in safety from the other players by fundamental design, whether you are new or just don't want to fight. Providing for your defense against the other players is mandatory and is what this game is all about.

Well I do love me a good thread about wardecs, this one is probably ill-timed. Citadels, particularly their 7-day unanchoring timer, are about to change the face of wars. No longer will structure-owning corporations be able to dodge wars at no cost. That alone may put some meaning into wars and at least give the option for aggressors who want a fight to force one over a citadel by targeting these structures. I imagine, in the next few days we will learn more of additional upcoming structures which will also provide new things for corporations to fight over.

I can assure you OP that none of these upcoming structures will include the ability for new players to use them with impunity however. This is a sandbox game, and players fighting over things in a shared universe is the central focus of all game play, even if CCP messes up the implementation from time-to-time.

I feel the same about war dec, why I'm fighting ganker right now I have a longer running plan , to offer assistance to corp under these pointless war decs, give them tips and combat help. I feel corporations should be a place to band together to fight for, weather you win or lose, pilots will come out of it better players .

Seen so many corps where there membership never see each other, spreading themselves across eve, how's that working together, the head of the space monkeys alliances has the right idea, people should listen to his speech when thinking about forming a Corp.

If you can look up some of my old post or free free to chat in game anytime, I'm in uk time zone so eve -1

So this is a PVP game, advertised as such everywhere, impossible to miss the fact. And people try to use whatever game mechanics are available to them, to get PVP.

If you want to talk about the war declaration mechanic from a PVP balance point of view, whether it affects the outcome of the fights or not, go right ahead. But avoiding PVP isn't really in the spirit of this game, which is why you're being flamed.

Finally, themepark MMO's have a built-in promise that your subscription guarantees success, at least in terms of reaching top level and getting the starter gear for PVE or PVP. Sandbox games don't have that promise; your play experience is entirely affected by other players, and you can certainly log in and be killed repeatedly on day 1, and/or be blocked from joining whatever corps you apply to because reasons. Until you leave.

The devs could make some change to the war dec mechanic, but it's probably faster and more effective if YOU deal with the problem yourself - join one of the PVE alliances that have been created by other players and made huge in order to make war declarations too expensive, or shop/fly in a quieter area of space, or move to null or wormholes, or any of the other suggestions in this thread.

Someone hold this poster down so I can draw blood and hair samples, then find me the nearest station with a med bay. We're going to Clone this mofo and populate New Eden with more people who have this kind of common sense.

Hello,

I made a similar discussion some days ago about the same topic.

They closed it saying substantially that CCP developers are happy how things are and they don't plan to change anything....

I would say they should listen when many players, in particular new ones ask for changes about abused game mechanics...

Edit:

But hey yes, I forgot...they care much about introducing crappy ( in my opinion ) "daily quests....", if they can be called like that...

important things first....

I've seen a lot of this in game and out. And I think this might provide some insight. They key point here:

How many times have we seen people come in and say "I was a guild leader in X game" or "i've been gaming for years so i know games". Then they start a corp a few days/weeks/months into EVE, get absolutely gobsmacked (because leading a succesful corp in EVE is NOT like getting a few guys together to do a dungeon in some other game) then run to the forums to proclaim that the game mechanics they ignorantly fell afoul of are bad and should be changed for the good of the new players (oddly never themselves lol).