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So this article appeared.

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Terquil
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#41 - 2016-04-17 18:56:56 UTC
Google ist your friend: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw
Should have deserved a long time ban for that ****.

'Eve is dead' is a meme which reigns since years. Players who can't use/play in a sandbox are not long time subscribers to Eve. And Thema other way round: a sandbox isn't something for 5Million people. Eve will never reach numbers like wow.

Eve is the most complex and fun game i've ever played. You have to get past the high sec wall and everythings more fun ;)
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#42 - 2016-04-17 19:53:38 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology.

Legal Assistant. He never went to law school.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Jacques d'Orleans
#43 - 2016-04-17 21:47:09 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology.

Legal Assistant. He never went to law school.


He is a lawyer, he went to George Washington University Law school and later worked for Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, Washington DC.
He also is still a member of the District of Columbia Bar.
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#44 - 2016-04-17 23:22:11 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology.

Legal Assistant. He never went to law school.
or
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
As he is a lawyer I am not surprised that he can give a good apology.

Legal Assistant. He never went to law school.


He is a lawyer, he went to George Washington University Law school and later worked for Zuckerman Spaeder LLP, Washington DC.
He also is still a member of the District of Columbia Bar.

That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries
#45 - 2016-04-17 23:34:38 UTC
Mark O'Helm wrote:

That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?


district of Columbia bar.
Gianturco on linkedin

He seem a legitimate lawyer.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#46 - 2016-04-18 02:47:30 UTC
Aaron Honk wrote:


The article is quite bad, there was absolutely no research done
Well, it pegged The Mittani as the entitled whiny ***** that he is, so they must have done some research.

Mr Epeen Cool
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2016-04-18 02:55:08 UTC
I can't disagree with them that is the most boring game in the world, until you finally undock.
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#48 - 2016-04-18 07:08:13 UTC
Shayla Etherodyne wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:

That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?


district of Columbia bar.
Gianturco on linkedin

He seem a legitimate lawyer.

I could not find him through the first link. Please do it and make a screenshot.

The second looks like a personal site and so it does not count.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

knobber Jobbler
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#49 - 2016-04-18 12:30:55 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
It just calls EVE boring, which let's face it, it is. Few of us would actually be here if it wasn't for the fact we've been here too long to quit now. The forum is generally more interesting than the game.


It's only boring if you play for the team that tells everyone to stay docked and deny fights.
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
Apocalypse Now.
#50 - 2016-04-18 16:23:04 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:


That poor video sequence keeps getting re-used for everything... Knowing some German makes it a little tough but the MST3K subtitles are pretty funny but I'm sure plenty will question their accuracy.
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
Apocalypse Now.
#51 - 2016-04-18 16:32:03 UTC
EVE is not boring even if you don't do Ship to Ship PvP.

It's different strokes for different folks...

Some folks find playing the market, mining ore, and building things interesting. Just look at Minecraft's success... it's basically Lego's online at its core.

I know that to Combat seekers, all the other stuff seems like snoozeville, but that's what's awesome about EVE, it has a massively broad appeal.

Why doesn't it do better? There are a lot of reasons that have been discussed forever. Until CCP has a clear path that everyone can swallow to increase it's usability, the separation of player abilities, and appropriate protections for all manner of activities in the game... well, it will stay what it is. CCP is focused on content to keep the current player base happy. It will take some serious commitment from CCP -AND- the player base to want to grow the game. CCP does not have the resources to do it alone.
Jacques d'Orleans
#52 - 2016-04-19 07:43:53 UTC
Mark O'Helm wrote:

I could not find him through the first link. Please do it and make a screenshot.



Click here
Mark O'Helm
Fam. Zimin von Reizgenschwendt
#53 - 2016-04-19 08:05:03 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Mark O'Helm wrote:

I could not find him through the first link. Please do it and make a screenshot.



Click here

Thanks, but not very much Information available there.

"Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen. Aber Frauen wollen keine Frauenversteher. Weil Frauenversteher wissen, was Frauen wollen." (Ein Single)

"Wirklich coolen Leuten ist es egal, ob sie cool sind." (Einer, dem es egal ist)

Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#54 - 2016-04-19 09:31:09 UTC
Mark O'Helm wrote:

That is interresting. Who is right and can proof it?

He appears to be right, which makes it all the more amusing that Mittani would publish a piece like the IWI online casino stuff :)
So I guess he's a failed lawyer after all. Twisting law and facts to suit his own little dream world, but I guess that's what all lawyers do?

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Jacques d'Orleans
#55 - 2016-04-19 14:44:37 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:

He appears to be right, which makes it all the more amusing that Mittani would publish a piece like the IWI online casino stuff :)
So I guess he's a failed lawyer after all. Twisting law and facts to suit his own little dream world, but I guess that's what all lawyers do?


The words "ethics"and "journalism" are, by many people, in general received with either utter disbelief or howls of laughter. They are corrupt and unethical, the whole lot, and i'm not only talking about The MIttanis multi-rupia media empire!
Pandora Carrollon
Provi Rapid Response
Apocalypse Now.
#56 - 2016-04-19 16:51:43 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
The words "ethics"and "journalism" are, by many people, in general received with either utter disbelief or howls of laughter. They are corrupt and unethical, the whole lot, and i'm not only talking about The MIttanis multi-rupia media empire!


Not entirely true, you can find journalists that belong to the ethical school. They are very hard to find these days so I'll agree with the reception comment. I was reading an article written by one of them over a year ago. In it, the author pointed out their own biases, stated only facts, and when writing what connections might exist between the facts clearly stated it was only possible and that many other possibilities existed. The author ended with a summary paragraph that was concise and referenced previous information cleanly. THAT should be Pulitzer award winning stuff, not the pseudo-editorial stuff most journalists practice now.

As for the whole dustup, I think this is now a cautionary tale about media interaction, player perception, where propaganda fails, and how important it is to actually keep a positive image as a leader.
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