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What Is The Point In Mining?....

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Velarra
#21 - 2012-01-13 04:43:26 UTC
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
"Enjoy the white noise of mining and relax before heading off to sleep at the end of a long day.




Hahahahaha! Awesome, totally gonna try that,....now i know why i haven't been sleeping well lately, its because I'm not doing this before bed ritual!


You can also just do that once on sisi, - and record the audio. Take the recorded track, loop it for an hour or two, save the loop...and just play back when ever you're having trouble getting to sleep ;)
Rhonda Monty
Temporal Progeny
#22 - 2012-01-13 04:53:14 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
"Enjoy the white noise of mining and relax before heading off to sleep at the end of a long day.




Hahahahaha! Awesome, totally gonna try that,....now i know why i haven't been sleeping well lately, its because I'm not doing this before bed ritual!


You can also just do that once on sisi, - and record the audio. Take the recorded track, loop it for an hour or two, save the loop...and just play back when ever you're having trouble getting to sleep ;)



And when I need to wake up in the morning on time, i can change my alarm sound to the sound of my barges blowing up repeatedly! hehehe
Jonknowitall
Phantom Fellowship
#23 - 2012-01-13 04:55:59 UTC
I think that to give us miners a little more of a chance, they should somehow alert local when a criminal or security threat enters a system. (ie. red bar and threat name in local ) Because having to loose a barge or two just to learn who the threats are in High Security, doesn't seem reasonable. Every second counts in this game, and that will help us non AFK miners out that extra bit.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#24 - 2012-01-13 04:56:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Corina Jarr
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
"Enjoy the white noise of mining and relax before heading off to sleep at the end of a long day.




Hahahahaha! Awesome, totally gonna try that,....now i know why i haven't been sleeping well lately, its because I'm not doing this before bed ritual!


You can also just do that once on sisi, - and record the audio. Take the recorded track, loop it for an hour or two, save the loop...and just play back when ever you're having trouble getting to sleep ;)



And when I need to wake up in the morning on time, i can change my alarm sound to the sound of my barges blowing up repeatedly! hehehe

God you're sick... Lol

Not a bad idea... just... Lol
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#25 - 2012-01-13 04:57:40 UTC
Jonknowitall wrote:
I think that to give us miners a little more of a chance, they should somehow alert local when a criminal or security threat enters a system. (ie. red bar and threat name in local ) Because having to loose a barge or two just to learn who the threats are in High Security, doesn't seem reasonable. Every second counts in this game, and that will help us non AFK miners out that extra bit.

In the latest dev blog they show something like that... though the pilot still has to actually look.
Karthwritte
Trouble Seekers Incorporated
#26 - 2012-01-13 05:01:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Karthwritte
I made some ideas for fixing the mining problem. Some people also posted their ideas here and their opinions.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=619136 (A FORUM THREAD IN THE IDEAS SECTION)

I am one of those who belive that fixing mining, fixes 25% of the game. I also believe it currently sucks. Hope they fix it before 12/21/12
Velarra
#27 - 2012-01-13 05:02:27 UTC
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
"Enjoy the white noise of mining and relax before heading off to sleep at the end of a long day.




Hahahahaha! Awesome, totally gonna try that,....now i know why i haven't been sleeping well lately, its because I'm not doing this before bed ritual!


You can also just do that once on sisi, - and record the audio. Take the recorded track, loop it for an hour or two, save the loop...and just play back when ever you're having trouble getting to sleep ;)



And when I need to wake up in the morning on time, i can change my alarm sound to the sound of my barges blowing up repeatedly! hehehe


Do remember to give a good duration for the critical shield, armor & hull alarms!
Rhonda Monty
Temporal Progeny
#28 - 2012-01-13 05:05:12 UTC
Jonknowitall wrote:
I think that to give us miners a little more of a chance, they should somehow alert local when a criminal or security threat enters a system. (ie. red bar and threat name in local ) Because having to loose a barge or two just to learn who the threats are in High Security, doesn't seem reasonable. Every second counts in this game, and that will help us non AFK miners out that extra bit.



I like that idea....and i kinda agree on the "learning who the threats are" bit....it seems kinda silly that you can just simply make a trial account and within days train up to suicide gank a barge, grab the loot with your main, let the trial account go dead after 14 days,...then repeat....
Renturu
In Glorium et Decorum
#29 - 2012-01-13 05:21:05 UTC
Mining in the "Off the Beaten Path" locations is perfect for uninterrupted mining. Also, Train up drones to help in defense and don't worry so much about cargo size... Forget the cargo expanders and fit yourself some tank and Warp Core Stab/Inertia stab... whatever to help you last longer while you try to get the hell out of dodge.

Too many miners are concerned about the huge cargo space when ganking is at an all time high (and in season - HAG5). Also, it doesn't hurt to fleet up with someone who has an Orca. Orca pilots train up to give mining bonuses and can reduce cycle time as well as the vast cargo hold should you trust them enough to haul it for you.

Lastly, sometime, not using a Hulk IS the best option. It is not always the best mining barge (esp when running solo). If you are in a Covetor, Retriever or whatever, the pain is less intense should it go pop.

Almost forgot... OMGWTF??? Jett Can mining? dude... Guaranteed to get them stolen out from under you... even by miners. If you must use cans, get anchor-able, secure containers. Yes, they are smaller, but are password protected and cannot be taken.

By the orders of PlunderBunny: ☻/ /▌ / \ This is Bob, post him into your forum sig and help him conquer the forums.

Rhonda Monty
Temporal Progeny
#30 - 2012-01-13 05:33:43 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Velarra wrote:
"Enjoy the white noise of mining and relax before heading off to sleep at the end of a long day.




Hahahahaha! Awesome, totally gonna try that,....now i know why i haven't been sleeping well lately, its because I'm not doing this before bed ritual!


You can also just do that once on sisi, - and record the audio. Take the recorded track, loop it for an hour or two, save the loop...and just play back when ever you're having trouble getting to sleep ;)



And when I need to wake up in the morning on time, i can change my alarm sound to the sound of my barges blowing up repeatedly! hehehe


Do remember to give a good duration for the critical shield, armor & hull alarms!


*Rhonda Monty wets her pants with the excitement of waking to such a beautiful symphony of doom.
Arcathra
Technodyne Ltd.
#31 - 2012-01-13 06:49:50 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
I actually enjoy mining. It's relaxing. Mine the ore. Build it up then ship it all for a nice price or use it for your own manufacturing. So I dont know what all the complaining is about.

That's it. Not that it couldn't need some little enhancements, but I don't understand why people think mining is worthless. And if they think so, why do they bother about other people doing it?
Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-01-13 08:03:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
Jonknowitall wrote:
I think that to give us miners a little more of a chance, they should somehow alert local when a criminal or security threat enters a system. (ie. red bar and threat name in local ) Because having to loose a barge or two just to learn who the threats are in High Security, doesn't seem reasonable. Every second counts in this game, and that will help us non AFK miners out that extra bit.



Did they remove that notice that comes up when a Criminal enters system? As well as the red skull?

Last I checked.... (YESTERDAY) popup "***** entere caldari space and criminals blah blah blah" and true as Bob is a dictator, he also had a little red skull to his name in local.

And besides...

For those that seem to be brain dead while wondering why people mine. SO PEOPLE CAN BUILD THE SHIP YOU FLY TO POP HIM WITH.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk

Kuzzka
Perkone
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-01-13 08:31:37 UTC
With the risk miners in high sec are facing today it's just easier for them to move to null sec. Seriously all this local alerts and aligning to station, it looks like they live in same condition as carebears in null sec. I understand there's suppose to be some risk living in high sec, but in my opinion it's incredibly high for miners today.
Marcus Harikari
#34 - 2012-01-13 08:35:35 UTC
Yeah, mining should be banned. In fact, everything besides PvP should be banned. Then let's make the view first-person and call it X-Wing vs. TIE Fighter!
Dex Thunakar
Evil Genius Organisation
#35 - 2012-01-13 09:30:01 UTC
I never had a problem with ganking when I was mining. I think it's just you really. Or other people who don't know how to handle such situations.

But that's besides the point actually, because mining just simply isn't very profitable - it's a waste of time really.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2012-01-13 10:33:05 UTC
Rhonda Monty wrote:
Atticus Fynch wrote:
I actually enjoy mining. It's relaxing. Mine the ore. Build it up then ship it all for a nice price or use it for your own manufacturing. So I dont know what all the complaining is about.




man! i gotta find out where you are mining so i stop loosing so many barges! Lol

looking to KB of my corp i don't see any hulks or macks on it for like half a month.... Not sure maybe before it there was many looses....

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Akinesis
Black Rose Inc.
Black Rose.
#37 - 2012-01-13 10:42:25 UTC
People mine for the same reason folks PvP - because they want to. Seriously, what is it about the haters (not necessarily aiming this rant at the OP). If I were a miner I get all my fellow miners together and strike just to see these people drip like taps because there are hardly any ships and equipment to buy, and the few that are on the market are too expensive.

Understand the EVE NEEDS MINERS!! Anyone who doesn't understand this is not very clever.

I'm a Wormhole dweller mostly, and the amount of industrial ships I've come across out there is ridiculous - but have I blown them up? No. Why? Because when I lose my ship I'll be depending on these guys to put a new one on the market for me. And the more there are the cheaper they get.

Rant over. Why do they mine? Well, why not. If you are into barge ganking, be grateful they are providing you with easy targets.
Akinesis
Black Rose Inc.
Black Rose.
#38 - 2012-01-13 10:42:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Akinesis
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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#39 - 2012-01-13 11:35:24 UTC
Mining is kinda fun, I trained my PI character to mine some roids, so I can build ships for myself... from free minerals Cool

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Ispia Jaydrath
Reib Autonomous Industries
#40 - 2012-01-13 11:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Ispia Jaydrath
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
Without a good population of miners, ship prices would skyrocket over time.


Akinesis wrote:
If I were a miner I get all my fellow miners together and strike just to see these people drip like taps because there are hardly any ships and equipment to buy, and the few that are on the market are too expensive.

Understand the EVE NEEDS MINERS!! Anyone who doesn't understand this is not very clever.


You people are so adorable. Most minerals come from drone regions and mission loot, not miners. The game is in no way reliant on mining, and if mining were stopped completely the economy would keep running just fine.


There is no reason to mine. A handful of people actually like it, and a very few people run massively-multiboxed setups in 0.0 and actually make some money, but for the average joe it's a terrible idea. High-ish risk, very low profit. Need mins? Spend an hour doing incursions, buy 3x as much as you would have gotten from mining, and pay red frog to move them. Use the left over isk to buy a thorax, and go gank a hulk just so you can laugh at the poor dumb scrubs that fly them.