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Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2016-04-15 06:49:04 UTC
Lately, my fellow capsuleers and I have been doing a lot of looking at each others kill marks.

However, there are some ships where they're rather difficult to find.
As well, it's rather difficult to view the kill marks on a moving ship.


So, the suggestion is, after you've clicked 'look at' on a specific ship, you're then given a 'view kill marks' option.

It's cool that marks were added into the game, but it's a bit redundant if you're the only person that can see them, most of the time, and even more so when it's just as difficult to find your own marks.


So, the kill marks cam would center the cam right over the kill marks, give zoom in and out functionality, and would track regardless of movement.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#2 - 2016-04-15 09:51:21 UTC
I can think of worse things. And not much point having the feature if you can't look at it. Some of them are in silly places.


+1

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#3 - 2016-04-15 12:09:33 UTC
How about NO. Don't give a damn about yours, mine or anyone else's kill marks, and I don't want CCP wasting time to add this.

If your kill marks are that important then let the drama build as you search to find them, that way the emotional impact of actually finding them will be so much greater, you know the ages old thrill of the hunt kind of stuff.
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-04-15 20:13:59 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
How about NO. Don't give a damn about yours, mine or anyone else's kill marks, and I don't want CCP wasting time to add this.

If your kill marks are that important then let the drama build as you search to find them, that way the emotional impact of actually finding them will be so much greater, you know the ages old thrill of the hunt kind of stuff.


That is literally one of the dumbest excuses for denial I have ever heard.

1) The hunt was for the ship you destroyed. Hunting to find the kill Mark is not thrilling nor rewarding.

2) It took more resources to develop kill Mark's than adding a cam function would.

3) the whole point of kill Marks is to show them off, either to yourself or others. Kinda pointless when you can't find them / see them.

4) current camera functionality makes them almost impossible to find on some ships without undocking, stopping, going into tactical ccamera, and other nonsense to try and find a tiny mark on a tiny ship.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2016-04-15 20:39:54 UTC
I dont often agree with joe, but thats some pretty dumd reasoning right there man.

That said , i also dont think any time needs spending on this, get more kills, the 10 marks are much easier to find.

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Iain Cariaba
#6 - 2016-04-15 21:16:40 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
I dont often agree with joe, but thats some pretty dumd reasoning right there man.

That said , i also dont think any time needs spending on this, get more kills, the 10 marks are much easier to find.

Like you, it's not often I agree with Joe, on the reasoning part, not the idea. I also think the idea is a waste of time.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#7 - 2016-04-16 04:12:57 UTC
I can't imagine adding a camera bookmark to the ship model would eat a massive amount of time.



If I had to choose between a KM camera and say, T3 rebalance, definitely the rebalance, but since we're not getting there anyway.... may as well enjoy Barbies and Barbie boats online a little bit more by playing dress up, right?

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2016-04-16 09:19:53 UTC
Changing the 'look at' functionality probably took more effort than this change would.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#9 - 2016-04-17 18:09:39 UTC
lets look at it the way a ccp dev would

"it would take a handful of devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Joe Risalo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2016-04-21 02:19:16 UTC
Agondray wrote:
lets look at it the way a ccp dev would

"it would take a handful of devs 6 months for a 15 sec advantage"


Yet they still implemented killmarks anyway... which likely took more people and more time..
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2016-04-21 08:02:29 UTC
OP, I have a present for you.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_bssbk2QRCVnJsdVMIOZtMU3UNVk7gkq67P4NPrWt9M/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

Now you can find them on any hull, ay issues you have with looking at them are thanks to the camera system and it's weird insistence on centring in front of your ship, not on it.