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If you think this is one of the most toxic communities for online gaming I think you need to spend some time on other MMO's games, or just their forums.

B4R would be laughed at and trolled in most other MMO communities I have played in. EVE is full of griefers and trolls but for the most part everyone in this community will put that aside the moment someone in RL needs something.

This won't work, because this would miss the obvious purpose of this feature ... forcing enough players to login daily at the same time to inflate the PCU to reach the company goals.

If CCP want players to log in more and shoot NPCs, then making the experience of shooting NPCs fun, challenging and dynamic would be aan infinitely better solution than simply bribing us to.

Sorry but this is a terrible idea. I would be ok to give skillpoints for the opportunities, because this system is useless so far. Or limit it to new players. One of they great advandtages of EVE is that you don't have to login everyday to grind stuff. Instead you login to have fun. Making it per character is even worse, because it's really not fun to cycle through all characters just to shoot one rat. This way, the game will become a burden, because you will have everday when you don't login you will have a bad feeling.

Apart from that, loging in once per day in a cyno alt, to kill a single rat in a belt, doesn't really add conrent.

Also 10k is way way too much. That is 900k a month for one account with 3 characters. Thats not too far from what you get with a second skill queue which cost one PLEX.

People calm the f*ck down... Jesus....

You can say what ever you like. The will add this. No matter what we are saying. The ignore it because why not? The doing want the want and or feedback is just to collect data what the are going to lose nothing more! The already do that with so many change now.

The game is bleeding to dead. Yah we know ccp. But come on you can do better than daily`s?
How about making real "content" than actual forcing to players to keep playing in a game?
There is a reason to we are eve online and not world of warcraft or any other casual arcade mmorpg auto clicker game!

Grinding sp points well that was a great idea BEFORE you RELEASE SP INJECTORS.... Now its just useless and waste of time if you can spend 10 bucks for sp..........

If the release this i`m out for good yah not because i`m angry no because i`m disappoint in ccp of yet another bad idea. This is not the first time and not the last time to say the least!

Eve online statics see here http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility. Yah the are bombardment the website so the website can not load here and there.

No they don't, it's easily avoided and is avoided by many players without any penalties, people don't get an SP reward for shooting anot her player so why should a PVE er get SP for shooting a rat? I'm not just talking about pvpers here I'm also talking about miners, traders, haulers, industrialists

Wouldn't be surprised if they advance this to a f2p model soon

I expect that this is a first step and as they develop it they will add options for other activities. Also, a vast number of other activities give you the opportunity to shoot a npc somewhere. Jumping gates (in null)? Shoot a NPC on the gate. Doing missions? Already done. Doing FW? Already done. Mining? Already done. Incursions? Already done. Ratting/WH escalating? Already done. PvPing? In null? Shoot a NPC as you pass a gate. In FW? Shoot a NPC in a plex. Hot dropping? Shoot a npc in the anom you dropped in.


This is an illusion. As soon as demand goes up and raises the price to above the PLEX price to produce there is essentially an unlimited amount of alts that can be PLEXd and/or dual-trained to generate SP.


People logging in brings the game to their mind and exposes them to what is going on (via chat, patch notes, evemail from their corp, etc). If even 5 in 100 players who log in to do their daily SPs gets distracted into also doing some other game activity that can still cause 100s to 1000s of players to be more active in the game.


The grind model was added with injectors. This just opens it up more to poorer/newer players instead of keeping it the realm of veteran / rich players.

remember back when skill injectors were intended for newer players

to be fair, grinding for SP door was flung open when the character bazaar opened up.

however, this idea is bad for other reasons. with the char bazaar, and skill injectors you can do that at your own pace. you can do it to suit you. you're not losing out for doing it on a schedule/time scale that suits you.

this proposal, however, is simply a flat out punishment for those who don't log in every day. it's not an incentive to play, it's a punishment for having a life outside of eve.

This.