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I like this. Thanks CCP.

Sorry man, but this is a terrible idea.

- Feeling forced to log in each day to get your sp
- Feeling like you're missing out when you can't log in or forget
- Forcing characters that have nothing to do with pve to undock and find an asteroid belt to get their sp
- Forcing characters with highly valuable implant sets to risk them for their sp (think what titan/super pilots have)
- Will benefit those that stay home from the front lines to rat more than those that deploy for wars
- Easier for more skilled players to do as they can 1 volly a npc on their chars whereas newbie players will have to commit several minutes to finding a npc, then killing it.
- Newbie players won't realize they can do it on all 3 chars on their account regardless of if they're training.
- Newbie players won't necessarily have 3 chars on their account to do it with as they don't realize it's beneficial.
- Creates SP out of thin air instead of earning them by spending time training or buying them from someone that spent time training
- Penalizes FCs/CEOs/Diplomats/Etc... that don't have the time to undock and find a npc to shoot because they're too busy with other important stuff.
- Rewards players for doing next to nothing. Seriously, logging in a char, warping to a belt, killing a npc, and logging out is not going to create content for the game.
- Significantly increase the load on the auth servers when chars are logging in and out a lot more frequently.
- Keeps players in highsec longer as it's super easy to kill npcs there, whereas lowsec and nullsec npcs might be more challenging.
- Greatly impacts the "play how you want" mentality by forcing players to engage in activities they have no interest in or get penalized.
- Undermines eve's progression mechanics further than skill injectors already did.
- Penalizes those that value their -10 sec status.
- Penalizes characters stuck in supercaps (because they don't have a citadel they can dock at)
- Penalizes wormhollers that have to scan down a k-space hole and kill a npc outside of w-space each day.
- etc...


It's a terrible idea that leads to a slippery slope.
- SP should be earned through training (either by you or someone else you buy the sp off of)
- Forcing players to log in all their characters each day to get extra sp will lead to burnout (i know it won't be sustainable for me with 30 characters, about 21 are just alts for other activities (cynos, etc...))
- Should be limited to new players if introduced at all.


Sure it is... just like our feedback on the market tax changes was appreciated.

You get 3.65m SP per character per year. I have four accounts for a total of 12 characters or 43.8m SP.
At current value of skill injectors, that is 36 BILLION ISK per year for me.
Optimized, I'd spend 2-5 minutes per character logging in, finding a rat and killing said rat or 24-60 minutes per day total.
At current skill injector prices, that's 100-200m/h which is arguably the best ISK/h you can get with no investment or risk and I'd be stupid to pass up on it.
It will also be soul crushingly boring gameplay and likely to burn me out of Eve, which I'd think is the opposit of the intended effect.

Edit: it's impossible to hit the sweet spot where the reward encourages players to log in daily, but not log in all characters which results in either daily opportunities being a waste of dev time OR the awful gameplay described above. The only solution I can think of would be to make it account based instead of character based.

THIS RIGHT HERE!!!
I have 10 accounts. I predict burnout within a month. (bye bye 30 plex/month worth of income for ccp)

Ok firstly I can see why the skill point reward could be a good thing but it absolutely has to be scaled to the SP of the character, low SP characters get 10,000, high SP as little as 1000.

Secondly there needs to be player choice in the activities they do the activities should be interesting if not challenging and forced daily log in grinds are not a good idea.

I played destiny for quite some time and that game literally became a chore, one day I realised wtf why I am doing this mission again. I don’t even want to, I want to do multiplayer or just mess about.

Hint I do not play destiny any more.

I think something like this can still work though it just needs more thought and polish.

Choice - Give players at least three options of what to do at least. Let them pick one.

More variety – Make the options change daily.

Less pressure – scrap the 22 hour thing. You can complete three dailies a week, you can complete as many as you want on a day from the options available but then that’s it. If you don’t like the options you can wait till tomorrow they will have changed.

Challenge – kill an NPC is not good enough. Travel to Lowsec and kill a cruiser class or up NPC. Travel three jumps and mine some ore while killing a pirate NPC. Complete any lvl 3 or higher agent mission within 20minutes. Even these aren’t really good enough examples just stuff that works with current content, plus there needs to be a lot more and the pool to choose form probably needs to be tailored to the current sec status or region you are in. Ideally some of these would be public challenges that put players in the same space cooperatively.

Engaging - An interface, make it something like an agent interface that can be accessed from anywhere, track historical gains, offer unique one time prizes for special event opportunities.

My worry is that if this is going to SISI then it probably going to tranquillity especially as this does not seem high profile at the moment, some work here could make something much more engaging than the current proposal.

Please no. Don't give out SP for ingame activity. And killing a single thing is a quite ****** metric for "activity", activity in this game can be everything from just jumping through gates (hauler) to just chatting (Corporation Management).

Do they have plan something to  decrease TiDi? might be this will encorage fight or more intertain fights.

more goals is not a bad thing, this dosent affect anyone that chooses not to do this. there is a serious overreaction to this feature.

It was tried back when EVE was in beta. Predictably, it was horrible and was removed pretty much instantly due to the awful gameplay dynamics it created and how much it hurt the very fabric of the core design conceit of the game.

Active players are already rewarded. Rewarding them with the thing they already have in abundance is beyond idiotic.

Yes it does. It removes choice; it penalises non-conformance; and it devalues the time they spend in the game doing what they want.

There isn't a single positive or beneficial aspect to this idea that hasn't already been tried and rejected for being actively bad for the game.

No No No. Please No. Daily activities / quests is one of the things I hate most in games and it is something gamedesigners should move away from rather than doing it just because other are doing it.

I am sure there are many players like me who has a schedule that varies alot so some days I got a fair amount of hours to spend on gaming and other days I don't have time at all. Don't make me have to log in daily as it will just turn the game into a chore instead of something I enjoy engaging in.

If you absolutely want to implement something to reward the players for actively playing you should make it weekly instead. So players who have their playtime in clusters can do them all for a week and then not worry about it the days they don't have the time.

To me, daily activities seem like a cheap attempt from devs to get the players to log in. But in the end it isn't fun or provide any meaningful to the gameplay nor the health of the game.