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Please make I-Hubs invulnerable or cheapen them

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Xeno Szenn
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#41 - 2016-04-04 17:46:00 UTC
Gloom skull Dethahal

Love it or hate it this is war. It's bloody cruel, unfair and dirty, any tactic that does not break the Eula or real life laws is fine in war. There is no separation from the ordinary. This is a conflict that is going to be long drawn out and bloody. Your side has tactics and so does ours. IT was waffles, Tishu and PH you fought mainly in Fade when it was only a small groups and a new player alliance. We created timers, Then this ware got truly started and I have no clue the reasons nor do I realy care and it became bigger then what started in fade.

I tried to have a discussion with you on your other thread about timers but you only posted once then walked away no discussion just please change this to how I want it. Lucas and rain had a great discussion on sov mechanics and while I disagree with some of their points others do make sense.

You claim we need to readjust our image to suit what you want us to be. That we should bend knee and go oh ya we’ll fight 40k plus dudes ourselves well then let’s look at the image that your leadership is pushing on us. Band of Backstabbers referenced by reddit leaks and fireside chats. We get to name this war and the group fighting us but they can’t call us the cfc were the imperium now.

Before throwing stones about Image please check what your own group is doing. They aren’t doing anything wrong but you don’t have a moral high ground here and neither do we to be honest this is war Moral doesn’t and shouldn’t come into the equation. Things that should be in the equation are the EULA and Laws. Your group has claimed on a few podcast notably the ansher hour podcast that some of our people broke these Gobbins as an example but will offer no proof or explanation only that they will be banded soon.

As pointed out in the other post and by the Mattani himself Sov may be meaningless and this system could be flawed I don’t think that but as pointed out in the other post I don’t have any sov so I could be biased myself.
The game changes and adapts but let’s look at your price comparison and skill comparison for high sec ganking something that minluv an organization or sig in the imperium does. Jump freighter about a 6-month train about 7 bil isk investment. 100 catalysts 10 mil each 100mil investment 1-day train. Or for a one on one scenario retriever about a month train maybe more 200 mil catalyst just one 1-day train 10 mil.

Let’s look a time investment I spend about 30 mins to an hour reinforcing something and then the same time on each node you spend about 5 to 30 mins to undo my work. Time advantage you. I get to choose when to attack but you get to choose the times I can attack. Advantage no one. I have to come to your systems you should already live their Time advantage your barley. You have to defend I don’t have to show up. Time advantage me.

You say to me it’s trolling you but to me it’s a denial of income, Denial of time, and denial of your ability to live in peace. I’m not trolling you I am fighting a war against your organization and you just happen to be a member of that organization just like I’m member of PL and waffles. The matani himself said that we will not do our work and do the things needed to win this war. It’s my first sov war so who knows if he’s right but right now it sounds like you don’t want to do your work of fighting us and outplaying us.

Hopefully we can have a discussion over sov but as I emailed Lucas and rain who were having a discussion in the previous forum this has turned into a grr me and grr your conversation. So no discussion can really come from that. I hope I’m wrong and we can discuss this.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2016-04-04 18:18:37 UTC
Uba Stij wrote:
Also, didn't your alliance abuse this same thing when you went to Providence? Or am I just confused?


Yes. One reason to do so among others was to show that the system is kind of silly.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2016-04-04 18:21:54 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Uba Stij wrote:
Also, didn't your alliance abuse this same thing when you went to Providence? Or am I just confused?


Yes. One reason to do so among others was to show that the system is kind of silly.




Which is why Provi is doing so well they took a MERC CONTRACT to come burn down your home.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

CBBOMBERMAN
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-04-04 18:59:22 UTC
this thread is gold for the tears, terrible for ideas. Did not want that ihub anyways!
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2016-04-04 19:22:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Neuntausend
Aiwha wrote:
Which is why Provi is doing so well they took a MERC CONTRACT to come burn down your home.


Patience, young padawan. We'll get to you once the boredom starts outweighing the grr.

edit: after reading that kind of tl;dr;-ish post from that sniggerdly guy on the top of the page, I kind of have to agree.

Now, as I said before - the system is ****. So was Dominion and so was POS-spam-Sov. Crying about Aegis hasn't fixed it in the past 8 months or so, and it sure as **** won't fix it now. Like so often, HTFU is the bottom line here.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#46 - 2016-04-04 19:58:06 UTC
Gloom skull Dethahal wrote:
You have to stop what you are doing, dock-up, re-ship, go through all the work of organizing a new fleet, hope you bio'd recently, and go deal with it.


Why aren't you in a standing defense fleet and on comms already? And why don't you have a PvP ship ready to go in a POS already, so you don't have to take the time to dock.

Hell, I'm a casual player and a line member, but if I wasn't in a standing defense fleet 100% of the time I am logged on, I would probably get shot by my own alliance as a warning
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#47 - 2016-04-04 20:49:12 UTC
This thread is embarrassing.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#48 - 2016-04-04 22:19:53 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Which is why Provi is doing so well they took a MERC CONTRACT to come burn down your home.


Patience, young padawan. We'll get to you once the boredom starts outweighing the grr.

edit: after reading that kind of tl;dr;-ish post from that sniggerdly guy on the top of the page, I kind of have to agree.

Now, as I said before - the system is ****. So was Dominion and so was POS-spam-Sov. Crying about Aegis hasn't fixed it in the past 8 months or so, and it sure as **** won't fix it now. Like so often, HTFU is the bottom line here.



For 30b a week I'll mine asteroids in a venture. My boredom is inconsequential as long as dear leader 1ronbank wants goons shat on.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

Uba Stij
Doomheim
#49 - 2016-04-05 04:36:38 UTC
Primary This Rifter wrote:
This thread is embarrassing.


~Valued Allies~
Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2016-04-05 06:09:21 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Aiwha wrote:
Which is why Provi is doing so well they took a MERC CONTRACT to come burn down your home.


Patience, young padawan. We'll get to you once the boredom starts outweighing the grr.


Right, but you're missing the point. If the system is so silly that an entire region can be captured in a week, I don't think there will be enough time to actually have enough boredom build up that everyone quits. And to add icing on top of the cake, you guys can't use your "weaponized boredom" anymore. Either you fight or you lose all of your space. So, please continue to carry on trying to pretend you guys are invincible and can't be touched because you'll just blob everyone to tears or deny them fights. It's not hard to have a few alts just set up the next round of timers while they finish off the main timers.

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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#51 - 2016-04-06 04:09:50 UTC
3 more corps left SMA... ouch!
are they backstabbers as well? have you also known all along? Roll

Just Add Water

Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#52 - 2016-04-06 04:12:21 UTC
What will SMA ever do without those two renter corps and a perfidious ex-S2N corp?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar

Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#53 - 2016-04-06 04:34:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Nat Silverguard
didn't need those meatshields anyway. Cool

Just Add Water

Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2016-04-06 04:41:03 UTC
What did they do WITH them?

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

soliketotallydude
Doomheim
#55 - 2016-04-13 18:57:40 UTC
Andski wrote:
What will SMA ever do without those two renter corps and a perfidious ex-S2N corp?

Apparently, the answer to this question is "undergo complete failure cascade, lose all their leadership, and slink away to die in Outer Ring."

Who'da thunk it?
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2016-04-13 19:00:54 UTC
soliketotallydude wrote:
Andski wrote:
What will SMA ever do without those two renter corps and a perfidious ex-S2N corp?

Apparently, the answer to this question is "undergo complete failure cascade, lose all their leadership, and slink away to die in Outer Ring."

Who'da thunk it?


People could guess the first few parts but outer ring was more than likely nobody's guess.
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