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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#1 - 2016-04-02 04:45:15 UTC
I know that its been a history to have different builds for characters. Before the homogenizing it was very imperative to choose a certain race and bloodline to get the best prebuilt stats *cough*achura*cough* and CCP has gone a long way in removing said barriers. I propose removing another.

Atm each race is still starting off with its racial weapons systems, frigate and racial tanking system. This leaves Caldari as the only shield tanking racial choice with the other 3 being armor tanking. Why not change one of the bloodlines of the 3 available to be the opposite tanking style as to give EACH race the choice for both shield or armor tanking?

You could go a step farther and give EACH race not only a shield option but also a missile option as a starting option. Thereby creating more options for tanking and weapons systems at starting.

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#2 - 2016-04-02 08:00:40 UTC
Because teaching people to shield tank Amarr ships is such a good idea. It works for a very limited number of ships and only doesn't kill you instantly in an even narrower range of combat scenarios, so teaching people that they can successfully shield tank all Amarr ships is surely going to teach them a valuable and useful lesson.
Giving Minmatar a shield choice is reasonable, but giving Amarr and Gallente a shield choice at start when people have no idea how the races work and introduce a failed fitting choice as game mechanic is surely going to help them to better learn the game.
Additionally, Gallente have no missile ships as their 2 weapon systems are Hybrid turrets and Drones. Giving new players a missile option for Gallente is certainly going to help new players in understanding how the 4 races work.

Is it just me or are you going to introduce even more barriers and road blocks with each of the suggestions?

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#3 - 2016-04-02 08:56:01 UTC
So what you are saying is that more options IS a good thing, even though not all races have the options currently? Because missiles for amarr and shields for minmatar ARE racial choices that are lacking.

Thanx for that through your derision of my idea.Twisted

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That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Wimzy Chent-Shi
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2016-04-02 14:53:01 UTC
Lets start with cosmetics - why can't gallenteans have cool jackets?
Also more poses and such would be nice - chicks with hands folded etc.

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Iain Cariaba
#5 - 2016-04-02 14:58:13 UTC
Wimzy Chent-Shi wrote:
why can't gallenteans have cool jackets?

Because they're Gallenteans. The people voted that they don't want to be cool, so you don't get cool jackets, and your ships look like space potatoes.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#6 - 2016-04-02 17:56:28 UTC
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
So what you are saying is that more options IS a good thing, even though not all races have the options currently? Because missiles for amarr and shields for minmatar ARE racial choices that are lacking.

Thanx for that through your derision of my idea.Twisted

I am merely saying that more options can be a good idea if they are reasonable and do not introduce clueless players to things that are detrimental, unfeasible or cement wrong ideas in players who do not understand their choices or advanced tactics.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#7 - 2016-04-02 22:12:29 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Eternus8lux8lucis wrote:
So what you are saying is that more options IS a good thing, even though not all races have the options currently? Because missiles for amarr and shields for minmatar ARE racial choices that are lacking.

Thanx for that through your derision of my idea.Twisted

I am merely saying that more options can be a good idea if they are reasonable and do not introduce clueless players to things that are detrimental, unfeasible or cement wrong ideas in players who do not understand their choices or advanced tactics.

Yet we both know that clueless noobs are clueless and most alt training is more the range of clued in vets making alts.Blink


But again ty for supporting my position on choices and cross training issues.Twisted

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Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#8 - 2016-04-03 03:00:04 UTC
Except your attributes used to be irreversibly affected by your choice of race. When it comes to ships, any char can fly any ship and it'd take mere hours for a new player to train a new races frig and support skills to the same level as their starting skills.

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Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2016-04-03 08:23:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternus8lux8lucis
Daichi Yamato wrote:
Except your attributes used to be irreversibly affected by your choice of race. When it comes to ships, any char can fly any ship and it'd take mere hours for a new player to train a new races frig and support skills to the same level as their starting skills.

Yet you understand this as a long term player and if you wish to enlighten those that have zero clue about how the game works then they also wouldnt know this would they?Blink

Then one of the main reasons is that if I wish a leg up on certain skill paths even to build a character I must either save a bit of time choosing a certain race or cross train skills myself. Like you said its a trite of an issue yet still why? If you want players new and old alike to have choices then what is the limiting factor here?Twisted

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You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?

That's right.

Had to end sometime.
Kenrailae
Scrapyard Artificer's
#10 - 2016-04-03 14:50:12 UTC
Better yet, let's just get rid of the 4 Empires, the Pirate factions, and Concord, and all fly rifters all day every day? That way everyone has the same options available to them right?

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Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#11 - 2016-04-04 19:49:19 UTC
wait, people care about portraits/clothes? people actually have them enabled in game?
Pleasure Hub Node-514
Pleasure Hub Hotline
#12 - 2016-04-04 19:59:39 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
wait, people care about portraits/clothes? people actually have them enabled in game?

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