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My Thoughts on Exploration So Far

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Teium Purvanen
Doomheim
#21 - 2016-03-14 18:27:20 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
If you are done with covops, train for an interceptor, then T3 tactical destroyer and max your probing skills ... these are all very handy for moving around in New Eden (beside core and fitting skills of course).



Still got 6 days to go for covert ops :)
Jolana Drax
Doomheim
#22 - 2016-03-14 21:58:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Jolana Drax
Teium Purvanen wrote:
I intend to go solo. A few people have said this is silly, but I really have my heart set on it.

I don't really want to go Astero. It's too expensive. I fully intend to go T2 covert-ops frig. Only 6 more days till I get to fly one i believe from last time I checked my queue.

From reading a guide, i think that the sites which have the pirate names in them are abandoned, but I could be wrong.

I really need to spend time researching wormholes. Haven't really looked into them at all. Busy saving ISK from LowSec sytems at the moment and waiting for my covert-op frig. Not long now though :)


In Wormholes sites with Pirate names are the ones that 's usually abandoned. Outside of Wormhole space it's critical to read up on exactly what defences certain sites have. Some might appear to be abandoned but instead have a hidden timer where you get attacked by a defence force after time's up. Others might have defences that activate if you fail a hack or simillar.

I've done some exploring myself (not much though so I'm no expert in any way) and I have chosen to stick with T1-ships both because the cost for loosing one is negligible and because I'm not as 'blingy' as the covert-ops exploration frigates for hunters looking for both a kill and payout.

I'm not sure exactly what's the difference in cost between a kitted T1 and T2 exploration frigate is nowadays but it is something that should be considered if ISK is an issue.
Teium Purvanen
Doomheim
#23 - 2016-03-15 09:56:40 UTC
Jolana Drax wrote:
Teium Purvanen wrote:
I intend to go solo. A few people have said this is silly, but I really have my heart set on it.

I don't really want to go Astero. It's too expensive. I fully intend to go T2 covert-ops frig. Only 6 more days till I get to fly one i believe from last time I checked my queue.

From reading a guide, i think that the sites which have the pirate names in them are abandoned, but I could be wrong.

I really need to spend time researching wormholes. Haven't really looked into them at all. Busy saving ISK from LowSec sytems at the moment and waiting for my covert-op frig. Not long now though :)


In Wormholes sites with Pirate names are the ones that 's usually abandoned. Outside of Wormhole space it's critical to read up on exactly what defences certain sites have. Some might appear to be abandoned but instead have a hidden timer where you get attacked by a defence force after time's up. Others might have defences that activate if you fail a hack or simillar.

I've done some exploring myself (not much though so I'm no expert in any way) and I have chosen to stick with T1-ships both because the cost for loosing one is negligible and because I'm not as 'blingy' as the covert-ops exploration frigates for hunters looking for both a kill and payout.

I'm not sure exactly what's the difference in cost between a kitted T1 and T2 exploration frigate is nowadays but it is something that should be considered if ISK is an issue.


Well my T1 costs about 4mill ish to kit out. The T2 I want to fly is 20mill just on its own
Deadmeat Zukalick
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2016-03-17 00:44:39 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
OP, you will love wormholes. Do go check them out right away, no need to wait. Also, look up Thera system.




What was going through my mind when I read this post

Behold the horror that is my sense of humour

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#25 - 2016-03-17 01:40:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Vortexo VonBrenner
Deadmeat Zukalick wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
OP, you will love wormholes. Do go check them out right away, no need to wait. Also, look up Thera system.




What was going through my mind when I read this post



Absolutely. However, the ever-present danger is part of what makes wormholes fun.
Teium Purvanen
Doomheim
#26 - 2016-03-17 09:58:46 UTC
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
Deadmeat Zukalick wrote:
Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:
OP, you will love wormholes. Do go check them out right away, no need to wait. Also, look up Thera system.




What was going through my mind when I read this post



Absolutely. However, the ever-present danger is part of what makes wormholes fun.



Can you point me to a good guide for wormholes?
Deadmeat Zukalick
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2016-03-19 05:24:37 UTC
For the record Thera is a very popular PvP location. An dangerous place for a exploration frigate. probably not many sites there anyway.

Behold the horror that is my sense of humour

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2016-03-20 09:22:18 UTC
Deadmeat Zukalick wrote:
For the record Thera is a very popular PvP location. An dangerous place for a exploration frigate. probably not many sites there anyway.

Actually it's quite safe for cloakies as long as you stay cloaked Blink, but you never do hacking inside Thera anyway (or for longer than 30s Pirate), instead use it as a staging to explore distant regions.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Teium Purvanen
Doomheim
#29 - 2016-03-21 10:06:09 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Deadmeat Zukalick wrote:
For the record Thera is a very popular PvP location. An dangerous place for a exploration frigate. probably not many sites there anyway.

Actually it's quite safe for cloakies as long as you stay cloaked Blink, but you never do hacking inside Thera anyway (or for longer than 30s Pirate), instead use it as a staging to explore distant regions.


Think i'm gonna stick to low sec for the time being. Then use wormholes to get me deep into null sec
Drago Shouna
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-03-23 07:59:56 UTC
I went out my self yesterday in a T1 frigate, T1 fitted as well (wardecs pfft) :)

Anyway I scanned down 2 sites, both combat, both Serpentis live Distribution centers.

I'm a greedy sod so I take my time and salvage while watching dscan for probes, when I got to the last room I noticed core scanner probes at the same time I saw a Shadow Serpentis elite in the room, I had swapped to a Confessor before entering so killed it first...

Boom, Shadow Serpentis Sebo, so along with other stuff I came out with ~175mil in loot.

Moral of the story? Don't neglect high sec sites, or rather do, I'll be along shortly :)

Enjoy EVE, have fun.

Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..." " They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."

Welcome to EVE.

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#31 - 2016-03-25 23:57:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vortexo VonBrenner
OP, this is about 3 years old, so some stuff referred to may have changed some. It's a list of wormhole terms, though, so might be useful for you genereraly:


http://www.tigerears.org/w-space-glossary/
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#32 - 2016-03-31 02:15:44 UTC
You said you don't want one, but get an astero when you get some more isk. Incredibly fast warp out time, it give you the ability to run DED3 or lower combat sites, and it gives you the option of fighting other ships such as cov-ops ships.

The advantage of the cov-ops is that it can easily fit combat proves. A helios with 1 drone could defeat one of the other cov-ops.

Dr Morgana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2016-04-01 13:44:25 UTC
Teium Purvanen wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Deadmeat Zukalick wrote:
For the record Thera is a very popular PvP location. An dangerous place for a exploration frigate. probably not many sites there anyway.

Actually it's quite safe for cloakies as long as you stay cloaked Blink, but you never do hacking inside Thera anyway (or for longer than 30s Pirate), instead use it as a staging to explore distant regions.


Think i'm gonna stick to low sec for the time being. Then use wormholes to get me deep into null sec

I play my EvE almost exactly the same as you.
And I found out that doing explo in low/null sec is not really worth it.
Traffic in WH-space is much MUCH lower (at least in European timezone) and it's more relaxed.
Also, you don't need to look at your local every 3 seconds :) Just the d-scan.
I average 100mil per trip that takes me around 2 hours of playing.
Some WH's are plentiful.
Some are spammed by gas sites thus worthless to an explo frigate, then you just scan down next WH as quickly as possible.
And you don't need to worry about gatecamps since there are no gates.

If you'd like to fly together sometime feel free to drop me in-eve mail and I will happily share my WH survival knowledge :)
Bookmarks and GTFO tab on your overview really help if someone tries to jump/bump you when you hack cans.

Although in all honesty, in WH I got jumped on only once and managed to get away.
The time I lost my Astero I decided to take exit to null and do some sightseeing. Given that I landed at far south reaches of the map.
Managed to get through a single gate only before I got killed :<
Teium Purvanen
Doomheim
#34 - 2016-04-03 19:59:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Teium Purvanen
Dr Morgana wrote:
Teium Purvanen wrote:
Tipa Riot wrote:
Deadmeat Zukalick wrote:
For the record Thera is a very popular PvP location. An dangerous place for a exploration frigate. probably not many sites there anyway.

Actually it's quite safe for cloakies as long as you stay cloaked Blink, but you never do hacking inside Thera anyway (or for longer than 30s Pirate), instead use it as a staging to explore distant regions.


Think i'm gonna stick to low sec for the time being. Then use wormholes to get me deep into null sec

I play my EvE almost exactly the same as you.
And I found out that doing explo in low/null sec is not really worth it.
Traffic in WH-space is much MUCH lower (at least in European timezone) and it's more relaxed.
Also, you don't need to look at your local every 3 seconds :) Just the d-scan.
I average 100mil per trip that takes me around 2 hours of playing.
Some WH's are plentiful.
Some are spammed by gas sites thus worthless to an explo frigate, then you just scan down next WH as quickly as possible.
And you don't need to worry about gatecamps since there are no gates.

If you'd like to fly together sometime feel free to drop me in-eve mail and I will happily share my WH survival knowledge :)
Bookmarks and GTFO tab on your overview really help if someone tries to jump/bump you when you hack cans.

Although in all honesty, in WH I got jumped on only once and managed to get away.
The time I lost my Astero I decided to take exit to null and do some sightseeing. Given that I landed at far south reaches of the map.
Managed to get through a single gate only before I got killed :<



Think WH space is where I need to go. Been in Nullsec the last few days and have done terrible.

Though 1st time I tried a wormhole I failed a hack and got blown up by the thing I was hacking =/

What's your ingame name?
Dr Morgana
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#35 - 2016-04-04 10:15:42 UTC
Teium Purvanen wrote:


Think WH space is where I need to go. Been in Nullsec the last few days and have done terrible.

Though 1st time I tried a wormhole I failed a hack and got blown up by the thing I was hacking =/

What's your ingame name?


Exactly the same as here, Dr Morgana :)
I should be online today evening CET so feel free to reach out and we can explore together.
Viserys Anstian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#36 - 2016-04-19 20:50:25 UTC
Teium Purvanen wrote:


Lesson well and truly learned. Never EVER let your guard down in nullsec.



And thus the excitement of exploration.

I too prefer wormhole exploration. Very exciting, and in my mind, more realistic since you do not know who is out there. Scan, combat scan, scan again, etc.

I also like that I've ended up going into wormholes and not popping my head into LS or HS for weeks as I tool around from hole to hole. If I find a particularly quiet one, I may hang out for a while.


Gustins
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-04-22 09:24:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Gustins
Teium Purvanen wrote:


Think WH space is where I need to go. Been in Nullsec the last few days and have done terrible.



I've been in null for like 2 years now and my overall avarage income is about 1bil in 5-7 days just from relic/ghost sites so it all depends where and when you explore (I explore max 1-2h per day). I use wh's to get in/out of null and I dont remeber last time I got blown up in null or wh ;)
Biggest bonuss for exploration in null over wh's in my opinion - I can have 1 jump clone in null and 1 in hs, so when I got 1 bil of loot I scan down wh whith low/hs exit, drop the loot in nearest station, jump back to null while wh's are active, jump clone to hs and pick up the loot <- hope this make sense ;)

Have fun and fly safe o7
Maia Kundoshi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#38 - 2016-04-22 15:56:05 UTC
Falcon, just because I think I've read between the lines that it worries people - and its way cheaper than a Tengu :P

I should be using the Heron but I really don't like how it looks, so I'm still rocking the Merlin :D I need to upgrade though, so I guess any cruiser or T2 Frigate
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