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Working as intended - personal top three annoyances

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Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#1 - 2012-01-12 12:16:51 UTC
"You cannot put items into that container because it belongs to XYZ and you are not in their fleet, their corporation or held in the highest personal standing by them."
Abandoned containers are notorious liars.

"You cannot do that while cloaked"
Ah yes creating a copy of a bookmark/location from your personal places to cargo disturbs some quantum mechanics and will rip the universe apart.

"You cannot target XYZ while you are inside a force field"
So repping my damaged drones or especially shield damaged ships coming out of a Ship Maintenance Array has to be done in free space? What about a repair facility module for a POS or allowing repair actions within the force field?

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

Cyzlaki
BRAWLS DEEP
HYPE-TRAIN
#2 - 2012-01-12 12:24:16 UTC
I never thought smack talk would hold me up for X seconds
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2012-01-12 12:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
You can not train this skill because another character on your account, Abdiel Kavash, is already training the skill Caldari Titan V.
Do you want to pause Abdiel Kavash's skill training and start training your queued skill? Yes/No

You can not jump because you are cloaked.
But I am clearly within jump range. Is it that big leap of faith to understand that I want to decloak and jump?

(After dragging several dozen items into my hauler's cargohold)
There is not enough space to move the Giant Secure Container.
Well, how about moving the 30 other items that still fit, rather than aborting mid-transfer?
DeLaBu
CAF Industries
#4 - 2012-01-12 13:08:03 UTC  |  Edited by: DeLaBu
1. Having to restart the client just to switch characters.
2. Not being able to update market orders made for corp from another character with correct rights than the one that created the order.
3. Having to 0.01 isk against market bots - automate this with the user inserting a min/max value.

EDIT : added two more gripes.
Dust Fourtwenty
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-01-12 13:25:30 UTC
1. speed being set to 0 when entering warp and suddenly hit by a warp disruptor, it should just keep going at full speed because it wasn't a "ship stopper" being used but a simply "warp disruptor" fgs.
2. ecm
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2012-01-12 13:25:46 UTC
Every time I have to tediously navigate the dropdown menus to control drones. Please give per-drone buttons on the drone UI, and key shortcuts for them as well.

.

Elder Ozzian
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-01-12 13:33:41 UTC
1. Missiles loose it's payload when your ship activates warpdrive (starting to accelerate to warping).

2. You cannot warpscramble npc officer/overlord rats.

3. The atmosphere in stations are still toxic, and the door remains shut.

I disagree!

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers
#8 - 2012-01-12 15:55:11 UTC
Rediculusly long invulnrabuility timers after undock and not only for player sbut for some rats warping in also.
IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-01-12 16:10:33 UTC
Juggling production of mutiple PI alts. You should be able to pass your 'rights' to a Primary to centrally manage all PI from one character. Heck this could even be something you charge someone ISK. For example Character A leases his PI rights to Character B for a percent of the profit which is deducted at shipment off planet.

Farmers in the midwest US do stuff like this all the time.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#10 - 2012-01-12 16:15:59 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
"You cannot put items into that container because it belongs to XYZ and you are not in their fleet, their corporation or held in the highest personal standing by them."
Abandoned containers are notorious liars.


who says its abandoned? you?

Quote:
"You cannot do that while cloaked"
Ah yes creating a copy of a bookmark/location from your personal places to cargo disturbs some quantum mechanics and will rip the universe apart.

you cant add or remove objects (yes a BM is a tangible, tradable object when moved) in cargo when cloaked

Quote:
"You cannot target XYZ while you are inside a force field"
So repping my damaged drones or especially shield damaged ships coming out of a Ship Maintenance Array has to be done in free space? What about a repair facility module for a POS or allowing repair actions within the force field?


oh well, lets just totally ruin POS warfare by allowing repping inside the field

EVE... it's not about you
Fearless M0F0
Incursion PWNAGE Asc
#11 - 2012-01-12 16:17:33 UTC
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Juggling production of mutiple PI alts. You should be able to pass your 'rights' to a Primary to centrally manage all PI from one character. Heck this could even be something you charge someone ISK. For example Character A leases his PI rights to Character B for a percent of the profit which is deducted at shipment off planet.

Farmers in the midwest US do stuff like this all the time.


Now THIS is an awesome idea Shocked
IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-01-12 16:18:13 UTC
Morganta wrote:

EVE... it's not about you


Do you need a hug?
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#13 - 2012-01-12 16:19:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Morganta wrote:

EVE... it's not about you


Do you need a hug?


only for posting in a "poor poor pitiful me" thread

85% of this thread is self-serving BS
Skorpynekomimi
#14 - 2012-01-12 16:19:38 UTC
- Not being able to cancel warp without stopping the ship.

- Not being able to stack things in a container without having space for two of each.

Economic PVP

IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-01-12 16:20:47 UTC
Morganta wrote:
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Morganta wrote:

EVE... it's not about you


Do you need a hug?


only for posting in a "poor poor pitiful me" thread


I quite liked the thread actually. But I quite like you also. I am torn, conflicted even.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
IGNATIUS HOOD
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-01-12 16:21:40 UTC
Skorpynekomimi wrote:
- Not being able to cancel warp without stopping the ship.

- Not being able to stack things in a container without having space for two of each.


This is hell on my OCD.
"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."   --H.L. Mencken
Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
#17 - 2012-01-12 16:29:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Seleia O'Sinnor
Morganta wrote:
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
"You cannot put items into that container because it belongs to XYZ and you are not in their fleet, their corporation or held in the highest personal standing by them."
Abandoned containers are notorious liars.


who says its abandoned? you?

-> Yes me.

Quote:
"You cannot do that while cloaked"
Ah yes creating a copy of a bookmark/location from your personal places to cargo disturbs some quantum mechanics and will rip the universe apart.

you cant add or remove objects (yes a BM is a tangible, tradable object when moved) in cargo when cloaked

-> It's a rediculous mechanic for BMs.

Quote:
"You cannot target XYZ while you are inside a force field"
So repping my damaged drones or especially shield damaged ships coming out of a Ship Maintenance Array has to be done in free space? What about a repair facility module for a POS or allowing repair actions within the force field?


oh well, lets just totally ruin POS warfare by allowing repping inside the field

-> Sure this would ruin it, looked in your crystall already, didn't you?

EVE... it's not about you


Edit: By crapping in this thread you're the one piling up BS.

Odyssey: Repacking in POS hangars for modules +1,  but please for other stuff too, especially containers. Make containers openable in POS hangars.

Morganta
The Greater Goon
#18 - 2012-01-12 16:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Morganta wrote:
IGNATIUS HOOD wrote:
Morganta wrote:

EVE... it's not about you


Do you need a hug?


only for posting in a "poor poor pitiful me" thread


I quite liked the thread actually. But I quite like you also. I am torn, conflicted even.


don't get me wrong, some of them are valid issues, but most of it is more tears

like "my ship should know I want to uncloak"

no... it shouldn't

you have to be 2500m from a gate to jump
you have to be 2000m to break cloak

I sure as hell don't want my ship second guessing me on when to down mods

the actual issue here is warp to 0 is borked due to some silly alignment/collision box issue with stations and gates, so depending on your approach warp to 0 either brings you to 0 or 25m or somewhere between, this is as old as warp to 0, and probably as old as eve

even the good sounding idea of breaking warp or disruption taking you to 0 velocity is wrong, you have 2 engine systems, impulse and warp, they do not run at the same time, terminating one does not implicitly direct the other to take over, this again goes to our ships second guessing our actual intention in a number of situations, and is working as intended

the stacking issues, yeah, thats an actual issue that needs fixing
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#19 - 2012-01-12 16:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Morganta
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
Morganta wrote:
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:
"You cannot put items into that container because it belongs to XYZ and you are not in their fleet, their corporation or held in the highest personal standing by them."
Abandoned containers are notorious liars.


who says its abandoned? you?

-> Yes me.

Quote:
"You cannot do that while cloaked"
Ah yes creating a copy of a bookmark/location from your personal places to cargo disturbs some quantum mechanics and will rip the universe apart.

you cant add or remove objects (yes a BM is a tangible, tradable object when moved) in cargo when cloaked

-> It's a rediculous mechanic for BMs.

Quote:
"You cannot target XYZ while you are inside a force field"
So repping my damaged drones or especially shield damaged ships coming out of a Ship Maintenance Array has to be done in free space? What about a repair facility module for a POS or allowing repair actions within the force field?


oh well, lets just totally ruin POS warfare by allowing repping inside the field

-> Sure this would ruin it, looked in your crystall already, didn't you?

EVE... it's not about you


Edit: By crapping in this thread you're the one piling up BS.


oh... you got me

so you don't think being able to take down a POS after reinforce ends is valuable to EVE?
no, you want a module that can't be targeted that reps the POS and stuff in it.

so yes, that breaks POS warefare 100%, no crystal ball needed


and as far as the BMs go, as far as I know your cargo hold doesn't know the difference between a bookmark and 10 prostitutes. What you are asking for is to make your cargo hold "aware" of the objects in it. I think that would be a coding nightmare
Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#20 - 2012-01-12 16:56:49 UTC
Seleia O'Sinnor wrote:

So repping my damaged drones or especially shield damaged ships coming out of a Ship Maintenance Array has to be done in free space?


So the good news is Crucible 1.1 should be solving the shield issue both for ships out of an SMA as well as ships joining a shield bonused fleet or flying into a Pulsar.

The bad news is that I see no reason for the locking things within FF to change. It's a bit of a trade off between the invulnerability to be locked by enemies with guns too. Just repp them on the outside like the rest of us.

On the other hand though, it's be awesome if they did introduce a POS mod that allowed repping as a kind of "Mobile Repair Facility" to mirror the ones installed in stations.

The Drake is a Lie

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