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Lowsec Gate Camping

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98040
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2016-03-16 15:52:52 UTC  |  Edited by: 98040
I think the problem is to figure out WHAT is out of balance.

Piracy=

a) getting a gang of whatever ship you fancy and sitting on a gate in Empire space. No pilot will be able to tank 6:1, 8:1 - most can't even compete 2:1. The story of the kiting Keres is 1 of 1000, where the 999 before died.

So we're back to the blob-fest mechanics. If I can rally 10-15 Rifter pilots, I can be a pirate too. Rly? Tha'ts all it takes? How boring.

b) getting a gang of capitals and/or round-robin Logi and camping the undock point of low-sec stations. Rly? This is the pinnacle of your profession? To sit with 3-6 carriers or a dozen people on the undock point isn't a game, it's trout fishing in a stocked pond.

Still. Not. Impressed.

You guys need to work for a living.

For general travel purposes, most solo travel into low-sec is now out. We had a shuttle smartbombed and the pilot was instantly PK'd. That set him back 400m isk in implants. We had another pilot who lost his command ship returning from a low-sec mission where he solo'd a L5 mission only to lose his ship to the pirate gate camp waiting for him as he returned the 2 jumps back to station. YES he had a scout. They waited cloaked and hot dropped him. Gate response? Pathetic.

Maybe another way of putting this is that I have no problem saying GF to a group of pirates who gank me with a hot drop and a cloaked gang waiting patiently. That's tactically challenging, but hardly a fight. The fact that it's a virtual i-win for them is what the problem is. Empire space is supposed to afford some level of security in defense of traveling pilots. NO gate gun setup will disperse a camp of anything but the most weak ships. AND in no case is it capable of overcoming even modest logi support.


The ISSUE seems to be that you can have EITHER your BLOB or you can have your RR, but not both in Empire.

No matter which option you choose, GATE GUNS must be enhanced to make this style of game play more challenging.

The risk/reward quotient for low-sec gate camping and station piracy is severely out of balance.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#62 - 2016-03-16 16:09:40 UTC
98040 wrote:

So we're back to the blob-fest mechanics. If I can rally 10-15 Rifter pilots, I can be a pirate too. Rly? Tha'ts all it takes? How boring.




I like how you describe challenges which you have demonstrably failed to overcome as "boring". That is not the least bit disingenuous. Roll

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You guys need to work for a living.


Well, no, they don't need to, thanks to incompetent numpties such as yourself.

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For general travel purposes, most solo travel into low-sec is now out. We had a shuttle smartbombed and the pilot was instantly PK'd. That set him back 400m isk in implants.


For a palty 400m isk, that guy just learned why he should d-scan his destination gate when he's flying a flimsy ship in low-sec with a flashy red in local. Can you really put a price on the long term value of such an education? Lol

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The ISSUE seems to be that you can have EITHER your BLOB or you can have your RR, but not both in Empire.


The issue is that you're bad at the game and, instead of recognizing that you're bad at the game and should work to improve, you want the game to be changed to accommodate your ineptitude.

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Rein Chelien
Nova Express
#63 - 2016-03-16 16:39:52 UTC
Ok, so this is super easy to resolve.

98040, when you see me online (oh sorry, watchlist got nerfed) come on down and I'll let you run a solo gate camp on a lowsec gate. I'll show you how to do it, and then you can see how easy/hard it actually is to camp. If you want, you can even bring a frigate for logi on a second screen.

Seriously, we'll put you on a gate in Rancer and you can easy button kills all day long for a day and have solid proof in the form of an actual killboard as to how simple it is to run a camp and not get dropped.

Deal?

Or are you going to keep whining?
Catalytic morphisis
Deep Space Coalition
Fraternity.
#64 - 2016-03-16 17:20:44 UTC
98040 wrote:
Ralph, great that you got ass-raped for a change, but you lost one ship. How many ships and pods did you kill before you lost your one ship? Imbalance.


Disagree that the Tally of Kills/Losses is an effective way of managing balance, I go out solo in low sec most the time I'm online, and find that I always lose a single ship between killing(s). Does that in effect make me imbalanced? Should CCP Look to Nerf me and other solo PvP'ers too then?

Also although Gate camps are admittedly a mild irritant, they are so easily worked around, Maybe you need to adjust your play style to accomodate this.

Actual Link free and scout free solo PvP'er