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Osa Amarrian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2016-03-13 22:22:21 UTC
o7

What happened to the Relic Sites in Worm Hole Space???


I have been diving WHS for a long time and normally find enough to support all of my other Eve projects, but not lately.

Over the last few weeks, it has been hard to find one decent Relic site in WHS.

Last night I dived into six WH systems and not one Relic site.


What is going on?

A. Been put on the naughty list.
B. I Suddenly Suck at Exploration.
C. Someone at CCP is out sick.
D. Something 'better' is coming.
E. Bad Luck.


/7
unimatrix0030
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2016-03-13 22:45:15 UTC
E although B is also a possible option.

No local in null sec would fix everything!
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2016-03-14 01:37:02 UTC
Hard Knocks have expanded their wormhole renting program to include all Relic and/or Data sites. To ensure that no one else can profit from them they have alts logged off in every wormhole constantly running or despawning the sites.

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Pinkylein
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#4 - 2016-03-14 05:55:59 UTC
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Hard Knocks have expanded their wormhole renting program to include all Relic and/or Data sites. To ensure that no one else can profit from them they have alts logged off in every wormhole constantly running or despawning the sites.


Would laugh when there is not even the slightest possibility about beeing a true statement.

But in general ... there is probably just bad luck involved ... tons of ppl running them, including even the bad bad ppl coming from outside of wh-space :D
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#5 - 2016-03-15 19:03:24 UTC
Iyokus Patrouette wrote:
Hard Knocks have expanded their wormhole renting program to include all Relic and/or Data sites. To ensure that no one else can profit from them they have alts logged off in every wormhole constantly running or despawning the sites.


Impressive, running sites while being logged off Roll
Payne Dakara
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2016-03-15 19:27:28 UTC
From 2 weeks onwards relic sites are spawning more rarely in wh's previously in most wh's there were 2-4 fraction data or relic sites now there is only 1 max 2 it is the same for sleeper sites as well.
Currently a relic site nets about 10-15mil when previously it was 30+ and there is slight increase in data sites loot you can now get up-to 9mil from 6 cans what a joke.

Someone from CCP did a great job in his spare time because someone was complaining about poor loot in data sites.
Osa Amarrian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2016-03-15 23:15:53 UTC
Payne Dakara wrote:
From 2 weeks onwards relic sites are spawning more rarely in wh's previously in most wh's there were 2-4 fraction data or relic sites now there is only 1 max 2 it is the same for sleeper sites as well.
Currently a relic site nets about 10-15mil when previously it was 30+ and there is slight increase in data sites loot you can now get up-to 9mil from 6 cans what a joke.

Someone from CCP did a great job in his spare time because someone was complaining about poor loot in data sites.



That is what I was afraid of.

CCP is wonderful at figuring out how pilots make money and what we enjoy doing, and then wreck it.


Thank you CCP!

I bet now my PI pilot will find all of his planets with less resources to extract and my FW pilot will earn less and less in LP.



Signed,



Future Star Citizen
Duo Roman
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#8 - 2016-03-16 00:18:36 UTC
I still get 70m+ in relic sites. But the competition is up too, by a larger margin.
Osa Amarrian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2016-03-17 02:08:48 UTC
Duo Roman wrote:
I still get 70m+ in relic sites. But the competition is up too, by a larger margin.



I was getting between 20 and 70 a night.

My last site was only 8.

I have gotten ganked a few times but I normally get away clean.


Something is off...
Mistress Racoon Eternia-Moon
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-03-17 03:32:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Mistress Racoon Eternia-Moon
I can attest, something feels dreadfully off about relic rates and drops lately. It used to be my primary source of income! I'd run holes almost daily (granted, I don't bias between data/relic, though I usually do the relics first) but starting about a week and a half ago after my last 40m crate it hasn't really felt worth farming. I think the last time I actually got anything out of a whole chain-hop was two weeks ago and I got so pissed, I popped out in nullsec to try my luck there for a night.

Null data sites suck and I will always hate them. Full stop.

I will burn another statue before I accept Data sites being forced as the next big thing.

There is no cake. The spoon is a lie!

.

Mistress Eternia-Moon, True Goddess of Anoikis
alindak Kahoudi
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2016-03-17 20:29:21 UTC  |  Edited by: alindak Kahoudi
True, Relic Sites have been stealth nerfed, you won't find it in any patch notes but they have... I do relic exploration in null (sansha space) and few months ago you could make 100mil easy in a Crystal quarry or a Science Outpost (the 2 better category Relic sites, 2 ruins cans) now, you hardly ever get to 30-40million on said sites. the rest will luckily net you 20mil. (that's if you get a few Intact armor plates) if not, more like 12-15mil.

so yeah, RS have most definitely been nerfed, which comes as no surprise cause CCP doesn't want players to make ISK efficiently, we all know that.
Suzanne Khale
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#12 - 2016-03-17 22:53:47 UTC
I was wondering. Today I could find 5-6 data sites and no relic. This will drive explorers off WH space.. I will really suffer from this :S
Zathus Alexander
TheGSpoters
#13 - 2016-03-18 21:42:33 UTC
I too have found that in the last few weeks WH space is not worth it anymore in terms of relic sires. I will say that NULL sec seems to have more sites but less loot. Data sites have always sucked and the hacks are harder.

Exploration in general is starting to feel like solo mining, like what's the point.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2016-03-19 10:16:30 UTC
Any spike in T2 salvage prices in the last two weeks? No? Then probably nothing changed (except competition).

I'm my own NPC alt.
Duo Roman
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#15 - 2016-03-22 00:49:12 UTC
After a week doing relic sites I see the loot has changed indeed.
The most difficult cans (Ruins) almost always have no loot or only carbon. They used to be the best loot given their difficulty, but now I'm cargo scanning them first and not hacking most of them due to no reward given the risk.
Dani Gallar
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-03-22 01:21:24 UTC
I don´t see the issue IF it's true that Data sites have been boosted while Relic sites have been nerfed. Previously it was a no-brainer to ALWAYS go for Relic Sites any many players even skipped Data sites due to their poorer loot.

I also wouldn´t be surprised if many players choose to go for exploration when it comes to PVE both for the possible payout (though that's very random) and because it's quite thrilling compared to say mission running (atleast in my opinion).
Sweety Palms
Speed Dating and Exploration Unlimited
#17 - 2016-03-22 05:18:23 UTC
Dani Gallar wrote:
I also wouldn´t be surprised if many players choose to go for exploration when it comes to PVE both for the possible payout (though that's very random) and because it's quite thrilling compared to say mission running (atleast in my opinion).


This is exactly why I enjoy exploration. It is much less grindy and otherwise more interesting than missions
witchking42
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-03-28 21:48:55 UTC
Just found 3 relic and 3 data in a WH

Sansha Crystal Quarry - 96M (oh we do love Intact Armor Plates!)
Gurista Monument - 28M
Gurista Monument - 20m

3 Data's totalled about another 20M

Lucky or have the tables been tweaked again?
Suzanne Khale
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#19 - 2016-03-31 21:07:26 UTC
I partially solved the issue.

Having all scanning skill to 5, and Relic/Data hack to 4, I resorted to fit a Venture:

-Gas Huff I
-Gas Huff I
-Core Probe Launcher I (Core Probe Scanner x8)

-MWD
-Relic Analyzer
-Data Analyzer

-Nanofiber II

-Small Scope Emission II (Relic Coherence +20)
-Alignement Speed Rigs I (x2)

It's able to clear easily Relic sites and get stuffed with Gas. Extremely cheap and extremely fast to align.
Going for Gas Huffer II, wil be probably able to stuff itself with ISK reasonably fast and fairly safe.

D-scan needs to be pretty much spammed.
Mortlake
Republic Military School
#20 - 2016-04-01 07:40:34 UTC
A whole six you say?

Sometimes you hit the bar and sometimes the bar hits you...
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