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Tiericide: The never ending story......

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Neugeniko
Insight Securities
#1 - 2016-03-08 21:52:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Neugeniko
Just reposting this thread as its useful for people coming back to see what has changed.

CCP officially announced a major rebalancing initiative with the 'Rebalancing EVE, one ship at a time' developer blog on the 6/3/2012. This initiative started with Inferno 1.0 which modified some T1 frigates on the 22/5/2012.

I know a lot of old timers who can fly many ships have enjoyed the progress, as every few releases they get a major change to one of their favorite ships. The following is a summary of how the re-balancing is progressing.

I have also included the progression of tiericide with modules.

Let me know if I missed something in patch notes since late 2011, I think I may have missed some minor tweaks done to ships in the 'no rebalance yet' category. I'll keep this post updated if it doesn't get locked due to CCP inactivity :).

Some rebalancing was done prior to the announcement and i've included those. The whole rebalance initiative was in response to the Incarna backlash, refocusing the game around spaceships again. I've also listed the new ships since Incarna.

Won't be rebalanced
Special edition ships as listed under the special editions market category. Some small exceptions.

Major rebalance done
Subcapital T1 ships (except ORE Industrial and Shuttles) (*NEW 2ND T1 Destroyer and Attack Battlecruisers for each race. A T1 Mining Frigate)
T1 Freighters (*NEW T1 ORE Freighter - Bowhead)
Faction ships (except Revenant) (*NEW Major Faction Battlecruisers, Sisters of EVE & Mordu's Legion Ships)
T2 Assault frigates (Tweaked just prior to the re balancing initiative)
T2 Blockade runners
T2 Combat recon ships
T2 Command ships
T2 Deep space transports
T2 Electronic attack ships
T2 Exhumers
T2 Expedition frigates *NEW
T2 Force recon ships
T2 Heavy assault cruisers
T2 Heavy interdiction cruisers
T2 Interceptors
T2 Interdictors
T2 Jump freighters
T2 Marauders
T2 Stealth bombers
T3 Destroyers *NEW
T2 Command Destroyers *NEW
T2 Logistic Frigates *NEW
Faction Disruption Frigates *NEW

Major rebalance coming soon (tm)
T2 Black ops (Some tweaks done)
T3 Strategic cruisers (Some tweaks done)

No major rebalance yet
T1 Capital industrial ships
T1 Carriers
T1 Dreadnoughts (Some tweaks done)
T1 Industrial command ships
T1 ORE Industrial
T1 Shuttles
T1 Supercarriers
T1 Titans
Faction Revenant
T2 Covert ops
T2 Logistics

Modules rebalanced
Co-Processors
Reactor Control Units
Micro Auxiliary Power Cores
Light Missile Launchers
Capacitor Flux Coils
Cargo Scanners
Ship Scanners
Survey Scanners

Mining Lasers
Mining Laser Upgrades
Ice Harvester Upgrades
Expanded Cargoholds
Nanofiber Internal Structures
Reinforced Bulkheads
Inertial Stabilizers
Overdrive Injectors
Power Diagnostic Systems
Capacitor Power Relays
Capacitor Rechargers

Afterburners
Microwarpdrive
Shield Extenders
Armor Plates

Neutralizers
Nosferatu
Warp Disruption Field Generators
Shield Power Relays
Shield Flux Coils
Shield Rechargers
Remote Repair Modules

Tracking Disruptors
Target Painters
Sensor Dampeners
ECM and Burst Jammers
Tracking Upgrades
Damage Upgrades
Stasis Webifiers
Warp Disruptors and Scramblers
Sensor and ECCM Modules
Cap Batteries
Damage Controls

Still to be done
Signal Distortion Amplifiers
Automated Targeting Systems
Passive Targeting Systems

Capacitor Boosters
Remote Capacitor Transmitters

Gas Cloud Harvesters

Armor Hardeners
Armor Repairers
Energized Armor Layerings
Energized Platings
Hull Repairers
Layered Platings
Resistance Platings

Jump Economizers
Warp Accelerators
Warp Core Stabilizers

Shield Boost Amplifier
Shield Boosters
Shield Hardeners
Shield Resistance Amplifiers

Smartbombs
Energy Turrets
Hybrid Turrets
Projectile Turrets
Missile Launchers (Except Light Missile Launchers)

Cheers,
Neug
Neugeniko
Insight Securities
#2 - 2016-03-09 02:06:07 UTC
Admiral Icarus Raidriar
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2016-03-09 16:28:03 UTC
Can't wait to see the new T1 Battlecruisers. Hopefully CCP won't exclude all of the the smaller factions.

Don't explain your philosophy. Embody it.

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#4 - 2016-03-09 16:44:53 UTC
I think this thread would have a shot at being a permanent sticky, IF:
Someone or many posters had the energy to post the 'before and after' of the rebalances.

EG.
Armageddon used to be a Laser ship, x hardpoints, x drone bay, etc.
Now it is a drone boat, x hardpoints, x drone bay, x bonus's.
Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2016-03-10 20:23:09 UTC
RavenPaine wrote:
Armageddon used to be a Laser ship, x hardpoints, x drone bay, etc.
Now it is a drone boat, x hardpoints, x drone bay, x bonus's.

IMO that would be better off in the form of links. Otherwise it will be one helluva opening post and a ton of clutter.
Forum Toon
Doomheim
#6 - 2016-03-15 08:55:32 UTC
Admiral Icarus Raidriar wrote:
Can't wait to see the new T1 Battlecruisers. Hopefully CCP won't exclude all of the the smaller factions.


what new BC?

I was just starting to have fun with immortal prophecy and sentry drones :X
O'nira
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-03-17 10:17:39 UTC
been looking for a list like this, hope its complete :p
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#8 - 2016-03-17 16:33:05 UTC
Forum Toon wrote:
Admiral Icarus Raidriar wrote:
Can't wait to see the new T1 Battlecruisers. Hopefully CCP won't exclude all of the the smaller factions.


what new BC?

I was just starting to have fun with immortal prophecy and sentry drones :X


the nado and co, the ABCS, is what the op meant.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#9 - 2016-03-17 17:34:04 UTC
Pretty sure strategic cruisers did have some work done on some of their defensive subs. I forget what specifically, but may want to add your "Some tweaks done" annotation on their line too.

Also, may want to annotate on missile launchers that heavy work has been done on the missiles themselves on several occasions, though they still need a full pass to finish them anyways. That is if you want to add charges in particular on the list, though I figure it may still be relevant to missiles launchers to include work to the missiles since most of any tiericide will likely focus on the charges and not just the launchers themselves. Most if not all T2 charges were adjusted back in Crucible, too (T2 penalties were removed, buffs adjusted, etc.).

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."

Neugeniko
Insight Securities
#10 - 2016-03-20 16:17:51 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
Pretty sure strategic cruisers did have some work done on some of their defensive subs. I forget what specifically, but may want to add your "Some tweaks done" annotation on their line too.

Also, may want to annotate on missile launchers that heavy work has been done on the missiles themselves on several occasions, though they still need a full pass to finish them anyways. That is if you want to add charges in particular on the list, though I figure it may still be relevant to missiles launchers to include work to the missiles since most of any tiericide will likely focus on the charges and not just the launchers themselves. Most if not all T2 charges were adjusted back in Crucible, too (T2 penalties were removed, buffs adjusted, etc.).


Thx. I'll make that change now.