EVE New Citizens Q&A

Eve Online is in a decline and has been for years. Why do you think they launched the new recruitment promo to get new players. Griefers and toxics players push players from any game. The only hope for Eve Online is to go free to play and to revamp training system. Today's gamers do not have time to wait days and weeks to fly something only to have it destroyed in seconds. They will unsub and uninstall Eve like they have been in droves.

Blade and Soul recently came out. I had been anticipating that game for years. And I can't believe how toxic the community is. Even GD trolling is nothing compared to the vitriol that happens on the B&S forums.

I think a lot of newbies don't realize that all the trolling in GD is actually in good natured fun. I wish I could say the same for B&S forums.

Hearthstone is F2P and they make $20 million per month on micro transactions, that's definitely no zero income. Eve Online brings out the worst in people, what's a few more toxic players to add to the fun especially if it F2P. Subscription based games are a thing of the past especially in this economy.

I'm not even going to ask you to name the gaming company not looking for new players and just jump right into asking you to name me the company that is not looking for new customers.

So if you could just name me the game that does not have griefers and toxic players so that I can go check out that game and see if it's worth playing that would great. Even at that you'd still have to prove that Eve has more than other games which I'm not convinced is the case.

If you are waiting days and weeks to fly something then you are playing this game wrong and you'll never get into it.

To all new players out there reading this, if you are looking for instant gratification or a simple scripted game that walks you through every aspect of it so that you don't have to do any investigating or learning on your own and a game so simple that it can be mastered in a matter of months then keep looking because Eve is not the game for you.

will either start voraciously consuming their lesser peers or become prey themselves just like the rest of us did.
The predator/prey dynamic is what hooked me and what keeps me playing.

I would expect some to also see it and thrive,
others to recoil in horror and go play home world or whatever eve dropouts do with themselves these days after whining and moaning.

i spend an inordinate amount of time reading the forums ,
keeping an eye out for them and giving advice where appropriate and mercilessly slagging off the inevitable whining entitled that can't reconcile with the reality of the game.

plenty of "today's gamers" thrive here precisely because of the reasons you condemn it.

if you dont like this game or community , kindly leave it then
Edit : and keep your stuff, it will reek of apathy.

I'm not sure how you have determined this. Everyone keeps saying it yet there seem to be plenty of subscription games that are doing well.

Kids who have to beg their parents for every dollar that they get like F2P games.They are also the ones with the most amount of time to play. You mentioned hearthstone making 20 million per month but the same company that makes hearthstone has another game that at one point had almost that many subs per month paying at least $15 dollars each and that game has been around for longer. So just within your one example it would seem to me that F2P is not where the real money is. But then I'm not playing this game based on CCP's profit margin and I did not play Blizzard games for theirs either.

There are people out there with jobs that don't mind paying money to play a game that is not just an interactive commercial selling you pretend clothes for your pretend persona. I'm not saying that every F2P game is going to die but I'm also not going to tell you that every subscription game is going to die either. There are markets for everything and to be frank with you, your black and white perspective on this leads me to believe that you are on the younger side of the age range of this game and that might explain your perspective on this a bit.

Essentially a subscription fee forces players to commit to the game. EvE as it is won't work IMO with the majority being short term casuals. Hence this pay wall is healthy for game community.

Even though I don't agree with the most recent developments that CCP is adding to the game (namely skill injectors and their broader ramifications for the game) I don't think EVE will be "dying" anytime soon... At least not if CCP continues to listen to their customers (which they traditionally did quite well in the past compared to every other MMO that I played). If things really start going bad then I trust the EVE community to threadnaught the **** out of CCP like during the Summer of Rage, quit their subscriptions and cause CCP to pull the emergency break and reconsider what they're doing. That was only necessary once in the past 13 years and the game actually became better thanks to that.

I do think it's possible that the number of players will slowly decline in the coming years (for the reason stated above and also because it gets more and more difficult to convince people to even try a game that's 13+ years old) but I don't think this necessarily has to be a bad thing. When I started playing EVE there were never more then 5'000 people online at the same time and the game wasn't any "worse" because of it.

So in conclusion, I don't think you have to be hesitant to invest time (and money) into EVE at the current point in time.

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This suggestion is so laughably terrible that I just can't read it without commenting on it. The absolutely worst thing that could happen to EVE (and the reason I disagree so strongly with the concept of skill injectors as an income source for CCP) would be if it went free-to-play. You obviously have no idea how this game works and why people have been sticking with it for 13 years... Either that or you're simply a troll. Why else would you suggest to sacrifice the very core gameplay concepts that make EVE the successful game it is today? Simply laughable...

Even with injected skills a newb is still a newb and b t w this also applies to those who log on to add a number of skills and then comes back when those skills are completed.

Player skill > Skill points without exception.

Due to RL-stuff I'm currently one of those people and have a training queue that stretches for about 2 weeks and I don´t expect to be able to do much playing during that time. This means that even though I will have some new shiny skills when I do get time to play I won´t be any better at playing the game then I am now.