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just the implants

if you had 6 clones b4 you were podded you have 6 after

I got worms 😀

thats just another reason NOT to use them in a citadel

Except the drilling platforms are going to be much more efficient than citadels at this and currently citadels can't be used to build things

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it wont take all that much organization to set one of these up

also eve is about players interacting and working together so yes parts of the game are going to be built around that

Remove the cool down timer for JC when using a citadel

OR

No extra fuel consumption for the clone vat module

OR

Provides additional bonuses for citadel owners taking the risk such as access to a portion of the tax stream already taken by NPC stations without incurring any additional fees

OR

a combination of the above

OR

any other alternative that does not involve screwing over small corps and individuals


It's really simple people get pissed when you start screwing with their sense of fair play (i.e. let them eat cake, no taxation without representation, CCP, Greed is Good ...any of this ringin a bell???)

I'm not a professional trader, but like most people I do quite a bit of buying and selling stuff. I do this almost exclusively in Jita, and not because Jita always has the "best price" I could possibly find. Often enough that is not the case.

I remember well when I was living in the Tash-Murkon area (where I was born). When I tried to cobble together a new ship fit, I invariably found that I had to fly here and there to gather up the needed parts. In Jita it's "buy, buy, buy, ..., done". I also remember well when I had some stuff listed for sale even in Amarr, and it just wouldn't get sold in spite of having the lowest sell price, for weeks and weeks. I took it over to Jita, and a couple of days later I had the cash.

The huge variety of sell orders in Jita is important. The massive volume of buy orders in Jita is important.

For better or worse, I'm unlikely to move my (non-professional) trading out of Jita just because it is a bit cheaper in a citadel somewhere. Not because I'm afraid of that citadel getting blown up, or its owner playing nasty games with the charges, or whatever. Frankly, I rarely have so many trades going on as to be seriously affected even if I had to write them off as a loss. It's also not that I'm not "greedy", I sure am. I will not move out of Jita because of its "supermarket" nature. Being able to buy and sell here and now is worth quite a bit of "convenience premium" to me.

Realistically, the only thing that would make me move my trading out of Jita to some citadel is if that citadel would become a better supermarket than Jita. If Chribba opens a citadel in high sec, then maybe that could be the case. But raising taxes will not make me move to some random citadel in high sec, much less to one in low or null sec. It will just make me poorer.

it wont take all that much organization to set one of these up

also eve is about players interacting and working together so yes parts of the game are going to be built around that[/quote]


Sure it won't.....It also won't take much organization to kill it either....and that little organization simply does not have the resources to afford to replace it

Eve is about the large blocks working together to Frack over the little people....the nice part used to be that I could a least in my own little way give the proverbial middle finger to them and do what I wanted when I wanted....with these changes, not so much anymore. It will take a little more effort but I will find a way around it and still do whatever the **** I want. I'm just vainly hoping beyond hope that CCP will actually listen to the feedback and re-think all of these changes in favor of incentivizing rather than penalizing.

I've never met Chribba, but I love how he's the de-facto patron saint of this game.

EDIT: Things got messed up and half the post didn't go through. I'm too lazy to type it all again.