EVE General Discussion

I've joined with my main to one of the nullsec blocks and thought I'll have some good time have some action and basically I wanted to see how it is to be a part of player owned internet space empire.

In one word > boring.
In one long word > Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring.

Just let's be honest here I won't specify names or any specific I'll just share my general experience.

In general the null plebeians lives in extremely boring space, it's mostly empty and except for 1-2 systems here and there in most systems there isn't a single living soul. As a result in order to meet someone and partake in proper shooting between space station one need to be prepared to jump loads of systems.

I overall in 24 hours since moved to my new null system jumped somewhere between 60 to 100 jumps just inside the null region.
It's sucks the life out of me.
In the few years I played eve I never had to jump so much.

At any rate all trade hubs are more expensive in margin of around 10-20% which is respectable but you can feel the lack of variety.
on the Jita\Amarr\Dixie line of trade hubs one can get anything he wants in competitive price. In null it's challenge to find something, one must trust in contracts set by your alliance.

At any rate seems most null dwellers are worst then high sec isoboxer miners. I never seen a "less" enthusiast group of players in my life.

I'll explain,
In the beginning I did highsec pve missions and such. My old corp used to make frigate and cruiser sized roams into low sec and we had some action then came back.
then I switch to mining and even then when pvp arrived at our doorstep we stood and fight.
Then I tried FW in lowsec and over there people actively went out and searched for fights, ones found each duel was to the death (as everyone carried points and webs etc...).

In null... oh it's painful.
everyone hides.
like bunch of scared puppies.

It started with fleet ops I've joined where I had to sit and look on boring ass titan parking maneuver. after 40 minutes fleet dispersed and I had to jump 15 systems back to my home base.
on the way inside allied space I've noticed a warp scram deployable and some hostiles on the area.
As I was alone I reported in intel channel and after 20 minutes no one came they just avoided the system.
I started shooting the warp scram until it almost pop'd and only then the owner had the dignity to come out and fight my glorious t1 frigate with his Dictor. seriously... fricking dictor vs t1 frig show some balls.

After taking the Pod Express back to the station I started scouting around while being in the "militia" fleet of that region I was in and while participating in intel channel.

Every turn of the way when we had eyes on enemies the Null dwellers just tailed and ran away.
It was disgraceful. I mean... it's a game. A pvp game.
the whole point is take ships and shoot other ships.

At any rate after 2 hours of that chicken mentality showed by the local dwellers I decided to take some heavy tanked ratting ship and sit in a plex and rat while I wait for decent fight... FINALLY! someone had the decency to fight and I was tackled in the plex.
While still in the "militia fleet" there were another 4-5 fleet members in same system with me + over 10 other pilots in the system.
Once I shared intel and told the fleet I got intruder on me and invited everyone to warp to my location in order to share the festivities.. what is the first thing they all did?

Docked.

The fricking cowherds docked and hide in the station.

Overall we had tonight 3 roaming gangs, fleet of stealth bombers and entire fleet of campers camping on the fricking base.. home station inside the home system of that alliance I joined to.

even then meager 10 pilots managed to subdue the flow of operations of gigantic thousands members corps which is member in alliance which hold significant area of space.

Then I ask on my corp chat wtf is going on and why my old mining corp had more balls then them,
Then I was told those roaming people just look for easy kills (dafuc easy kills mid capital system of a space empire) and they just dock and bore them to death until they will leave them alone.

you see,
those lovely null dwellers spend most of their time ratting in one of the 30-40 plexes spawning in their systems or eve... hold it... mining! in 5-10 alts mining fleets.

24 hours and over 60 jumps I didn't encounter any significant battle. everything was pure hide and seek, pure chicken **** tactics and in all truth... after watching the online videos of those "epic battles" and reading about how nullsec empires are awesome it's plain boring.
it's worse then highsec as in highsec you can actually get more proper fights while having access to proper trade hubs and access to more activities then in null.
Also I was extremely disappointed with that defeatist mentality of the local dwellers.

TL;DR
why highsec miners have bigger balls then nullsec dwellers?

/thread

Have to agree
Was in providence with 4th
They imposed a strict do t shoot reds or talk to reds in local

I left soon as I could after that.

They waste no time shooting at me when I'm in local though! Hopefully they dropped that silly rule

Maybe because a solo t1 frigate trying to agress a HAC just screams cyno bait?

Go to Querious. It's one of the most violent regions, and an example of sov actually working, because it is made by and for fun-havers.

Null mechanics are still in dire need of revision because avoidance is still the optimal strategy.

Cowherds eating blue donuts. Happy Friday everyone :)

Sounds like your main joined SMA

try lowsec

Providence is basically highsec.

I must admit, OP managed to produce the longest post in eve forums, that I was willing to read. Usually I do not read post with more, than 200 words, but here I did. So OP succeed.

From my point of view null is a very special place to live, not to PvP. Just as a wromhole. Live often means PvP but not necessary. You want PvP - go into FW. There is so many systems, where 2-3 minutes in novice will get you fight, sometimes even fair one. You need to feel, that you have a place called your home, something to build and defend etc - you can try this null sov games. Even parking titan for 40 minutes can be meaningfull than, IMHO. Jump clones allow you to do whatever you want to do pretty comfortable.