EVE New Citizens Q&A

Must haves:

- The skills to use a MicrowarpDrive or Afterburner
- The skills to use a Warp Disruptor/Scrambler

These two things will allow you to contribute to a group in a basic way; tackling ships (see: preventing them from warping off).


Beyond this:

- Any skill found in the Engineering tab is a priority skill (the edges you gain from these skills affect all ships equally).
- Choose a weapon system you like and focus on training it.
- Choose a tanking style you like and focus on training (moreso if you want to move up to larger ship classes, otherwise place Navigation skills as a higher priority).


All the while, mix in ship skills and a few random things here or there to keep thigs interesting or unlock basic capabilities so you can do something different (when it strikes your fancy).

Finally... don't wait for your skills to reach a certain level or whatever. PVP is more of a mentality than anything else. Be the "predator!" And if you can't beat another predator, team up with other "low level predators."
And predators love a good laugh. Or cheekiness/scrappiness. They may invite your to join their group on that basis alone.

This game lets players compensate for any shortcomings in the skills trained / ships unlocked by simply bringing more friends to the fight.

So yea, as soon as you can get in a frigate and tackle, go at it; for all your friends it's probably better to have you there applying tackle than to not have you at all.

Long term training plans depend on what ships your friends like to fly, and what you find fun. T2 modules is easily attainable by training basic skills to 3, T2 weapons is moderately easy to achieve, and the ships (T1,T2, T3, capitals, etc) depend on what roles you are interested in.

My advice is "don't treat it as a grind". You mention you've decided to give the game a real shot; that sounds like you're going to try to suffer through whatever pain you imagine PVP to be, when in fact it's where the fun is. So don't grind through it if you're not having fun; switch to a different kind of PVP where you ARE having fun, switch to new friends, etc.

Great thanks guys. From how some people talk, I should give up before I begin. I'll keep at it and have fun.

I'd like to add: Weapon Upgrades and Advanced Weapon Upgrades (both required for most tight fits - and both help for all ship types).
Furthermore any skill that increases your powergrid or CPU output (again, required for many of the best fits and work on all ships). After those, skills that decrease the grid or CPU requirements for commonly used modules (depending, of course, on what equipment and what type of tank you use).

So in a word: fitting skills. They'll usually give you much more "bang for buck" then increasing some skill that will increase your damage by a few % points (possible exception: skills to use t2 weapons of choice). They also allow you to choose to use the cheapest modules available at your current location (particularly important if you're far away from a well stocked market and generally a huge advantage when you want to learn to PVP on a small budget). Often there are very cheap meta2/3 items which have higher fitting requirements then (generally more expensive) meta4 equipment and they're obviously easier to fit with good fitting skills. An extreme example of the influence of fitting skills on cost of fittings are Damage Controls (lowest CPU requirement costs 10-20x the amount of the t2 variant).

My $0.02
Thermodynamics V is possibly the most useful, all round skill you can have for PvP outside the aforementioned MWD/Scram/Guns.

Overheating is a key PvP technique and one you'd be well advised to start practicing with. The bonuses you get from overheating are huge, with the drawback that not paying attention will burn out modules on your ship.

This is where I disagree with the math-warriors. My own in-game experience suggests that Thermodynamics at higher levels seems to reduce the chances of splash damage to other modules on the rack. I know its been argued to death, but my $0.02 remains the same: Thermo V is worth the train.

OMFG! you have to be trolling on this one. There is no way that you are seriously telling the OP that the 18 minutes spent training propulsion jamming to level 1 would be wasted SP in PvP.

Right ... So for all those hundreds and hundreds of players I've killed ,
I didn't need to tackle because ... I'm ehh ... I'm struggling to see the logic here man.

You need to force a conclusion, otherwise they warp off, re-ship/refit or repair ,
and come back in the exact thing to murder your face off.
Seriously ,
No tackle, No kill.<--------emphasis on the period.

Agreed , I actually only have thermo dynamics IV and its fine for extensive overheating.
Not disputing that V is better (or that neglecting this skill will lose you ships)and might from time to time turn certain doom into a win but for the most part IV is perfectly serviceable .

I wouldn't rush it past 4, but 5 is definitely worth it when your queue starts to slow down.