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Should i dismantle my POS now and sell it?

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rikomos maxxwell
Corporation12
#21 - 2016-02-24 23:00:27 UTC
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
Hargost wrote:
Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)

Do I need to keep my moon locations?
Will the price plummet?
Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?

What are others doing?


Thanks, fly safe


Depends what you do with your POS.


  • If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
  • If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
  • If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.


My advice for you would be to wait until we give you guys a release date before planning anything.


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Zander Kumamato
The Chaos Void
#22 - 2016-02-24 23:09:42 UTC
Should keep the POS system in place regardless of the citadel thing.

Keep options in place instead of removing them.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#23 - 2016-02-24 23:28:32 UTC
Celthric Kanerian wrote:
I heard all the cool kids blow them up... Except the faction ones, cause they are pretty.



To be honest when I found a blueprint for a tower, i literally sold it immediately to an alliance member.

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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
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#24 - 2016-02-24 23:53:13 UTC
I ended up basically walking away from an OK low sec moon since I really needed a change from the dread POS grind.

Haven't been happier since.
Atomic Virulent
Embargo.
#25 - 2016-02-25 02:49:29 UTC
CCP prefers to keep us all in a constant state of limbo. They wouldn't want us players slipping into a state of clarity and awareness now would they?
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#26 - 2016-02-25 04:33:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
ok, this doesn't affect me much, but I am curious. Why are POS being removed really? Pos are small, citadels are HUGE. It seems to me like CCP is saying, No more frigates, cruisers, and battleships because we now have TITANS!

I understand the citadels are going to have a different mechanic, with modular builds etc, and it all sounds great, but HUGE! Are there going to be modular small stations too?

I think the main draw of the POS of old is that they were accessible to small groups. But it doesn't sound like this is applicable to the new citadel mechanic. Because CCP hasn't really demonstrated that citadels are a POS replacement, I've seen the blogs, and they seem to be outpost replacements, which is a whole different scale. So if citadels aren't replacing POS, why are POSs being removed too?


You could put a small pos in a BR and drop it off inside a Wh and start your own little operation. What about the little guy in all this new mechanic?

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Ibutho Inkosi
Doomheim
#27 - 2016-02-25 18:54:11 UTC
So....what Reddit section will we find this announcement in?

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Rory Wolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2016-02-26 21:39:22 UTC
I am quite curious if the dead sticks littered all over New Eden will be quietly removed. I sure wish they would be salvageable after they have been offline for an extended period of time.
BambarbiyaKirgudu
Real Pilots Group
#29 - 2016-03-02 06:12:04 UTC

I see many already understand that the removal of POS with games nobody wants and it's stupid - but its don't understand only in CCP - may be they are not playing in this game?)
Anthar Thebess
#30 - 2016-03-02 08:04:20 UTC
CCP Ytterbium wrote:
Hargost wrote:
Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)

Do I need to keep my moon locations?
Will the price plummet?
Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?

What are others doing?


Thanks, fly safe


Depends what you do with your POS.


  • If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
  • If you're using it for compression or reprocessing, without the activities below, it's also safe to remove those.
  • If you're using it for manufacturing, research or moon reaction, keep it. We're not touching those in the first Citadel release.


My advice for you would be to wait until we give you guys a release date before planning anything.

Some serious question.
Can we get possibility to reprocess modules at 100%

I invested time and ISK in getting stuff to Stain, now i don't want to move it back just to haul again citadel stuff.
Materials from this modules i could use for building new citadel stuff.

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Wanda Fayne
#31 - 2016-03-02 09:21:42 UTC
I could, you know, dismantle that for you...Blink

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Alyssa Wyatt
Bazinga Labs
#32 - 2016-03-02 09:49:06 UTC
Iria Ahrens wrote:
ok, this doesn't affect me much, but I am curious. Why are POS being removed really? Pos are small, citadels are HUGE. It seems to me like CCP is saying, No more frigates, cruisers, and battleships because we now have TITANS!

I understand the citadels are going to have a different mechanic, with modular builds etc, and it all sounds great, but HUGE! Are there going to be modular small stations too?

I think the main draw of the POS of old is that they were accessible to small groups. But it doesn't sound like this is applicable to the new citadel mechanic. Because CCP hasn't really demonstrated that citadels are a POS replacement, I've seen the blogs, and they seem to be outpost replacements, which is a whole different scale. So if citadels aren't replacing POS, why are POSs being removed too?


You could put a small pos in a BR and drop it off inside a Wh and start your own little operation. What about the little guy in all this new mechanic?


I think a huge misunderstanding is going on concerning citadels atm
My reading, is they aren't directly replacing POSes, they are replacing the role of Gallente outposts with added stuff
Other structures will be coming in to replace current POS mechanics, these structures should be along the lines of cost of current POSes + modules

Sure Citadels will be do things you can do with POS'es or industry/research specific outposts, but not as well as the future structures that are planned
Kenneth Feld
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#33 - 2016-03-02 12:27:35 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:
Hargost wrote:
Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)

Do I need to keep my moon locations?
Will the price plummet?
Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?

What are others doing?


Thanks, fly safe

One thing to consider: If you are in high sec, and use your POS for refining and/or compression:

Be aware that you can unanchor and scoop your POS in a short amount of time in the event of war. That is, you do not need to worry about defending it. At the moment, we do not know how long it takes to scoop a citadel. I've heard rumors it will take over a day, which means you cannot take it down in the event of war before the war goes live. You must defend it. Thus, you may find keeping your POS to be preferable.



Unanchor takes 7 days, and it can be RF'd while unanchoring during your vulnerability window
Gaufres
Just Keep Hanging On
#34 - 2016-03-04 00:47:57 UTC
POS need to be left alone for small groups or CCP is just going to force more people to find other games as small group content keeps getting removed.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#35 - 2016-03-04 02:11:55 UTC
Gaufres wrote:
POS need to be left alone for small groups or CCP is just going to force more people to find other games as small group content keeps getting removed.

I thought that's what medium citadels (the smallest) were for: starbase replacement.
Anthar Thebess
#36 - 2016-03-04 08:08:09 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Gaufres wrote:
POS need to be left alone for small groups or CCP is just going to force more people to find other games as small group content keeps getting removed.

I thought that's what medium citadels (the smallest) were for: starbase replacement.

No, to keep similar functionality in asset safety (like small tower) you need to get Large citadel.
Small tower cost you 100mil, large citadel 8-10bil

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erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#37 - 2016-03-04 08:19:59 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
CCP Ytterbium wrote:


Depends what you do with your POS.


  • If you're using it for staging, storage, you can start moving that out.
    • ...




Wrong. You, CCP guys, managed to make a serios nerf to any offensive operation. Small tower costs about 100 MIO ISK and can be deployed quick and silent. Medium citadel costs 700 milions and its deployment in hostile space is a suicide without large fleet permanently guarding it. So in FW when system belongs to other side we can deploy small POS and operate from it to take the system. You replace expendable POS with expensive citadels (if we plan to use capital ships there it will cost us 7 bililons instead of 100 milions). That will seriosly limit small gang operations, IMHO.

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Fred Kyong
Grollwerk
#38 - 2016-04-04 22:17:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Fred Kyong
Vincent Athena wrote:
Hargost wrote:
Anyone know what will happen to POS hardware in the light of Citadels? (I've seen much chat about the BPO's and i know that is much more scary but...)

Do I need to keep my moon locations?
Will the price plummet?
Should i take them down now and sell them in Jita before its too late?

What are others doing?


Thanks, fly safe

One thing to consider: If you are in high sec, and use your POS for refining and/or compression:

Be aware that you can unanchor and scoop your POS in a short amount of time in the event of war. That is, you do not need to worry about defending it. At the moment, we do not know how long it takes to scoop a citadel. I've heard rumors it will take over a day, which means you cannot take it down in the event of war before the war goes live. You must defend it. Thus, you may find keeping your POS to be preferable.


Wardec mechanics will most likely be modified with the new Citadeles so you could have time to knock it down and get it to a safe spot.

I think POSs are dead now. I had a large Faction POS selling once for 1.6 Bill. I sold it now in Jita for just 750 Mill. market high. Get rid of whatever you can now otherwise you have to refine it.
Black Pedro
Mine.
#39 - 2016-04-05 08:35:23 UTC
Fred Kyong wrote:
Wardec mechanics will most likely be modified with the new Citadeles so you could have time to knock it down and get it to a safe spot.
What? No.

Citadels have a 7-day unanchor timer because you are suppose to have to defend your Citadels. CCP is intentionally doing this so you cannot take them down in the event of a wardec as was confirmed by CCP Nullarbor in the other thread in GD.

If you want to enjoy the benefits of a Citadel, you have to plan for defending a Citadel. As it should be.

As to POSes, CCP has said there will be some sort of transition which probably will include some sort of buy back or conversion. They certainly won't straight out delete them and their blueprints. Who knows how they will set the price or material value, but at this point I would hold on to them to see what is announced at Fanfest in a few weeks.

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Aprilon Dynasty
#40 - 2016-04-05 11:55:33 UTC
Vincent Athena wrote:


Be aware that you can unanchor and scoop your POS in a short amount of time in the event of war. That is, you do not need to worry about defending it. At the moment, we do not know how long it takes to scoop a citadel. I've heard rumors it will take over a day, which means you cannot take it down in the event of war before the war goes live. You must defend it. Thus, you may find keeping your POS to be preferable.


Errr i was under the impression they could not be scooped and were built in place like outposts, how exactly do you plan to "scoop" something that has player ships docked inside it?
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