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Open petition against EVElopedia closure

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Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#1 - 2016-03-01 08:56:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkoth 24
Just because someone should make it already.

I DO NOT expect CCP to put EVElopedia back online. I DO NOT think this thread will change CCP mind and force 'em to cancel EVElopedia shutdown. This thread was made to show community's opinion and, probably, to find some other way to bring EVElopedia back to life.


Why?

1. 3rd-party wikias lack on information about New Eden's lore and history.

2. EVElopedia was directly accessable from Help menu and popular among new pilots.

3. EVElopedia was an official resource. 3rd-party wikias may be closed by their owners anytime, access to 'em may be limited, and it's content may not be trusted.


What now?

If someone have enough time and effort, he may be able to make a mirror-site for EVElopedia and community may ask CCP for full EVElopedia dump - if it was not destroyed already.


Take a shot now.


Source:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/evelopedia-shutdown-2016-02-29-09-00/?_ga=1.178812132.1797931384.1448610908

Related threads:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6362441#post6362441
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6370184#post6370184

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UPDATE 08-03-118 YC

Now it turns out that many people used EvElopedia and want it back.

Many thanks to Mr. DeMichael Crimson for bringing an EvElopedia snapshot on Wayback Machine:

DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Seeing that there's still a need for Evelopedia, I talked to Mr. Peabody and Sherman who both agreed to let me use their Wayback Machine to get a usable working snapshot.

Evelopedia via Wayback Machine
This link enables Evelopedia viewing but no updating. Also the search option doesn't work so you'll have to manually go to a specific page by using the various inside wiki links.

Hopefully someone can transcribe this info into a new wiki which can then be updated.
Suzanne Khale
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#2 - 2016-03-01 09:20:50 UTC
Signed
FIREDASH Visagie
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-03-01 09:23:32 UTC
Signed aswell
Jaantrag
#4 - 2016-03-01 09:27:55 UTC
Signed

EVElopedia < add this to your sig to show u WANT it back

Agent 711
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-03-01 09:29:12 UTC
signed
Sierra Pell Achassi
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2016-03-01 09:34:00 UTC
Signed
Captain IQ
Innocent Traders Ltd
#7 - 2016-03-01 09:45:36 UTC
Signed
Rondont
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2016-03-01 09:47:09 UTC
who cares? so many better dbs around ... really
Elmund Egivand
Sebestacny Circle
#9 - 2016-03-01 10:04:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Elmund Egivand
The folks in backstage.eve-inspiracy.com are hard at work using the CCP data dumps to put together a wiki for lore info. Especially the player-created stuff. Go support their efforts instead.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#10 - 2016-03-01 10:31:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Arkoth 24
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Go support their efforts instead.

Sounds nice, but let's aim for some higher goal: full-working EVElopedia clone.

May be EVElopedia's closure will give it community attention at last. For years we forgot 'bout it - just because it was always here and no one gived a drek to it. Now it's gone - and looks like we still need it.
Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Badfellas Inc.
#11 - 2016-03-01 10:37:56 UTC
i noticed one of the devs say he's working for stuff for the new site, but its not online yet...
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-03-01 10:45:01 UTC
Ncc 1709 wrote:
i noticed one of the devs say he's working for stuff for the new site, but its not online yet...

EVElopedia was nice because it provided information on both EVE mechanics AND lore for new pilots right-here-and-right-now. Some other sites may be good, but i don't think it would be the same thing.
Aviola von Yodalgut
Doomheim
#13 - 2016-03-01 10:51:43 UTC
A mirror site is useless unless it'll be kept up-to-date.

If it is kept up-to-date then it'll just become a player run site and there are already a few good ones of those.
Pandora Bokks
Pangalactic Frontline Supply Agency
#14 - 2016-03-01 10:53:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Pandora Bokks
I would love to support this.

But if you look at Evelopedia at its last state - it was still good, but totally outdated and misleading in a couple of chapters. While this is ok for a fansite and the playerbase might also accept it with a 'better than nothing' argument, I am sure the developer does not want to have an official wiki with outdated and misleading information. And they obviously do not want to allocate ressources to rewriting or updating it.

So if you want to do something for the community, I would suggest to contribute to already existing fansites. I would bet, e.g. Talvorian would also put DED 1-5 complexes on his site, if someone else does the writing.
Aleksei Kunitckii
Anonymous Hyena
#15 - 2016-03-01 10:53:54 UTC
SIgned
Arkoth 24
Doomheim
#16 - 2016-03-01 10:58:47 UTC
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
A mirror site is useless unless it'll be kept up-to-date.

If it is kept up-to-date then it'll just become a player run site and there are already a few good ones of those.

EVElopedia was outdated in many ways, but it was community's fault only. It was up to players, not to CCP to update wiki with new data.

As about other wikias - i said it already: they are mostly up-to-date and got good explanation on EVE's mechanics for new pilots, but they provide almost no information on lore and history, and they are not officialy approoved.
Tisiphone Dira
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#17 - 2016-03-01 11:35:58 UTC
Why stop there?! Long as we've got devs working on useless and redundant content, lets get them working on walking in stations as well!

Counter un-sign times infinity.

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A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy

Aviola von Yodalgut
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-03-01 11:36:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Aviola von Yodalgut
Arkoth 24 wrote:
Aviola von Yodalgut wrote:
A mirror site is useless unless it'll be kept up-to-date.

If it is kept up-to-date then it'll just become a player run site and there are already a few good ones of those.

EVElopedia was outdated in many ways, but it was community's fault only. It was up to players, not to CCP to update wiki with new data.

As about other wikias - i said it already: they are mostly up-to-date and got good explanation on EVE's mechanics for new pilots, but they provide almost no information on lore and history, and they are not officialy approoved.



In that case other player run sites were more popular, another reason why it could be removed.


Seems to me it's not the information on how things work within the game but the lore you are concerned with.

If CCP doesn't intend to add to the lore then it could be copied and archived, even linked from the main site as it would require no maintenance other than initially moving it.
Geronimo McVain
EVE University
Ivy League
#19 - 2016-03-01 11:37:45 UTC
signed, as a new player found it very helpful
Aviola von Yodalgut
Doomheim
#20 - 2016-03-01 11:52:12 UTC
From what the guy says in this thread

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=471658&find=unread post #13


It sounds like the lore will still be accessible.


So your petition is pointless.
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