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★ 1.2t / 2.4t @1.5% // 'the Citadel XL bond' [Closed] ★

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#61 - 2015-11-16 03:11:25 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:


Regardless of structure, involving questionable players/alliances will not do the OP any favors, it will leave a bad taste in the mouth of any option 1 investor.

Questionable players implying you & your gank bear alliance, Bobby - stealing titan BPOs in T4U & silvermoon - known flake. regardless of structure, OP will be tarnished by your reputations simply by association. get it now?


This is EVE, everyone is questionable. Even Chribba, who could burn AE for trillions on this if he wanted to.

It's about controlling risk.

If the OP is stupid enough to give me or Bobby the opportunity to steal everything we will. AE has demonstrated that he's not that stupid.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#62 - 2015-11-16 03:32:10 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
AE has demonstrated that he's not that stupid.


No doubt, perhaps a more fitting word is naive/using bad judgement.

coz guys like me will be in the thread & every other thread after, spoiling his rep by merging it with bobby & to a less extent, you & your gank bears.

its a 200% better proposal without Your, bobby & silvermoon involvement period. as reputation is not in the scope of anybodies questions.

@JerryTPepridge

Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#63 - 2015-11-16 07:01:52 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
AE has demonstrated that he's not that stupid.


No doubt, perhaps a more fitting word is naive/using bad judgement.

coz guys like me will be in the thread & every other thread after, spoiling his rep by merging it with bobby & to a less extent, you & your gank bears.

its a 200% better proposal without Your, bobby & silvermoon involvement period. as reputation is not in the scope of anybodies questions.



Your vendetta against CODE and by extension me is well known, and easily shot down as an objection.

If you want to be taken seriously, publicly or privately (to AE) disclose a means by which myself or Bad Bobby could rob the consortium.

If you can convince AE that my participation and/or BB's participation would pose a credible theft risk - i.e. means and motive (I'll declare outright the motive is there; I'm stealing this if I can), so you only need means - then he will keep us out of the consortium.

If not - stop shiptoasting.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#64 - 2015-11-16 09:05:35 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

Your vendetta against CODE and by extension me is well known, and easily shot down as an objection.


i wonder why you only chose to respond now? 2015-11-03 23:27:16 UTC some 13 days later? its more interesting when theres an opponent dont you think? when everyone is on the same side its boring.

im giving this a meta game analysis, hence the awesome corp.

objections only lead to rebuttals, i only post in threads where i have an opinion. dont think you are special enough to think i would single you out. im currently explring the world of hisec mercbears to be honest.

Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

If you want to be taken seriously, publicly or privately (to AE) disclose a means by which myself or Bad Bobby could rob the consortium.


not interested in being taken seriously by anyone. im merely stating the well known fact, perception is everything, and guilt by association may not be a thing a guy like op wants to be apart of, coz it gets remembered. my objection wasnt to hurt the op, it was to help out. i wonder what the pre bids would have been like if bobby or you weren't mentioned.

Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

If you can convince AE that my participation and/or BB's participation would pose a credible theft risk - i.e. means and motive (I'll declare outright the motive is there; I'm stealing this if I can), so you only need means - then he will keep us out of the consortium.


so here it is, you believe the system is infallible when the structure isnt firm enough to analyze is it? ccp can change things in between now and then. id like it confirmed prior to figuring out how to scam him out of it.

Sabriz Adoudel wrote:

If not - stop shiptoasting.


forum content creating pls....

@JerryTPepridge

Angelica Everstar
#65 - 2015-12-11 13:51:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Angelica Everstar
Update - This project is currently on standby (surprise :D)


This is mainly due the lack of information currently. As soon as the data is available to make a informed decision on, the project status will be updated.


FYI : In the meantime I will be running another of my bonds

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#66 - 2016-02-01 14:07:19 UTC
Lets keep this thread open and not locked... lets post about that. :P.

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

morion
Lighting Build
#67 - 2016-02-02 01:10:32 UTC  |  Edited by: morion
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Brometheus Down
Doomheim
#68 - 2016-02-03 19:15:33 UTC
I doubt it's still possible as I never see your posts fast enough. But in the off chance that it is, please put me down for 100B

If not possible, best of luck o7
EvePick3
Crepuscule Warchai
#69 - 2016-02-03 20:58:34 UTC
Reserve 10 b for me please ( I'll edit later if I can grab more ) - Rollover from Bond # 9 if possible
Billy Hix
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#70 - 2016-02-27 20:41:35 UTC
Please put me down for 20b. Depending when I need to hand over the cash I could offer more.
Dhara an Sidhe
Temple Wraiths
#71 - 2016-02-28 13:31:50 UTC
I am relatively new to investing in eve and am hoping to clarify my understanding of how this works.

1. The investors offer up an amount of ISK .
2. They are paid 1.5% of that investment monthly regardless of the ventures actual profits.
3. The bond runs for a set period of time.
4. At the end of the bond period the initial investment is returned to the investors.
5. If the bond defaults the investors are returned their capital if possible.

Is my understanding of the process accurate? I
f so please put me down for 5b. I will increase this if I can liquidate enough assets.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#72 - 2016-02-29 04:50:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Jerry T Pepridge
Dhara an Sidhe wrote:
I am relatively new to investing in eve and am hoping to clarify my understanding of how this works.

1. The investors offer up an amount of ISK .
2. They are paid 1.5% of that investment monthly regardless of the ventures actual profits.
3. The bond runs for a set period of time.
4. At the end of the bond period the initial investment is returned to the investors.
5. If the bond defaults the investors are returned their capital if possible.

Is my understanding of the process accurate? I
f so please put me down for 5b. I will increase this if I can liquidate enough assets.


Lurk moar

please

lurk moar b4 investing

OP was considering letting this douche in as a part of the "team" - poor judgement on her part, so makes you think what else could go wrong?

Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Some advice from a fellow scammer - don't go for fifty billion until you have serious credibility built up.

I think you might have got there with five or eight with this setup.


the more u learn, the more u earn.

@JerryTPepridge

TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#73 - 2016-04-23 15:20:32 UTC
Seems you need to up the bond, the BPO will be 500b more expensive; source

"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X

"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron

-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-

Angelica Everstar
#74 - 2016-04-23 20:04:38 UTC
For right now, I will go to the closing party of FanFest, and party like there is no tmr.
Then in the coming days I have a though look at this, and make a final decision.

§ Current Bond AE09 1 Trillion / Acc. 4,5t ISK

ƒ Want to become a better trader ?

¢ Pls help support EVEs charities!

@EveEntrepreneur

flakeys
Doomheim
#75 - 2016-04-23 22:39:46 UTC
Angelica Everstar wrote:
For right now, I will go to the closing party of FanFest, and party like there is no tmr.
Then in the coming days I have a though look at this, and make a final decision.



And pay your interest on the other bond .... cough.... ;p


Fanfest was a blast i assume.Too bad i didn't get to see the Alliance panel though i understood it's coming up on youtube one of the next days.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Angelica Everstar
#76 - 2016-04-24 01:47:46 UTC
I'm SO SORRY - completely forgot in the heat of FanFest - It has truly been a blast.
As soon as I wake tmr, and am sober enough. I will do the payments.

§ Current Bond AE09 1 Trillion / Acc. 4,5t ISK

ƒ Want to become a better trader ?

¢ Pls help support EVEs charities!

@EveEntrepreneur

Nightjester
Ghost Net Industrialists
Northern Coalition.
#77 - 2016-04-24 16:02:50 UTC
Angelica Everstar would it be possible to get a updated list of all investors and the amount they are willing to invest.

Angelica Everstar
#78 - 2016-04-25 08:38:46 UTC
@Nightjester - Very much so, as it's time to get the final list.


So all investors please confirm the amounts you wish to invest.

§ Current Bond AE09 1 Trillion / Acc. 4,5t ISK

ƒ Want to become a better trader ?

¢ Pls help support EVEs charities!

@EveEntrepreneur

flakeys
Doomheim
#79 - 2016-04-25 10:53:24 UTC
If your other bond closes then i am still willing to put in the 500b i mentioned earlier in this thread.However since i am playing again for the last months , even though i'm not super active , i am going for the fixed 1.5% secure rate.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Ulisse Kromm
Italian Gentlemen's Society
#80 - 2016-04-25 13:14:46 UTC
I'm in with 120 billion investor position 1.5% long time 100% collateral (not risky position) ...... waiting your go to send money