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[IPO] AEGIS Logistics - 40% Shareholding @ 3000 ISK/Share (Closed)

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Magnu Stormhawk
#41 - 2016-02-24 16:31:47 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Magnu Stormhawk wrote:

Pro Tip: Anyone who uses the word 'pledge' followed by a number in the region of 20 billion, is not likely to follow through.


if i had 20b each time i pledged it, id start an eve museum & use public isk to collect crap for my personal gain.

giving away the spoiler still want stop noobs such as OP from thinking its legit, its a gate ppl have to pass, it determines if they are MD readers or casual scrubs begging for isk.


Not sure if you're trying to educate me or the OP, but if the former, no need - i've been around the block. And of course the spoiler wont stop others, because by definition they wont read this thread. I just wanted to put him out of his misery. Mercy is one of my weaknesses.
Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2016-02-26 16:39:11 UTC
Shares are still available for trade
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#43 - 2016-02-29 00:29:39 UTC
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Shares are still available for trade


get one of your alts to buy some

lrn2scam

@JerryTPepridge

Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2016-02-29 04:29:12 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Shares are still available for trade


get one of your alts to buy some

lrn2scam


No need, shares are being traded regardless Big smileBig smileBig smile
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#45 - 2016-02-29 05:04:04 UTC
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Shares are still available for trade


get one of your alts to buy some

lrn2scam


No need, shares are being traded regardless Big smileBig smileBig smile


sweet

to whom?

@JerryTPepridge

Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2016-03-01 01:04:10 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Shares are still available for trade


get one of your alts to buy some

lrn2scam


No need, shares are being traded regardless Big smileBig smileBig smile


sweet

to whom?


To those listed is the Google spreadsheet.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#47 - 2016-03-01 04:17:20 UTC
Shares Created Trading Percentage Price Investment Target
2016 50,000,000 20,000,000 40.00% 3,000.00 60,000,000,000.00


Initial Public Offering Investment Shares Percentage
Investment
Gallente Rebel 5,250,000,000.00 1,750,000 3.50%
Juniorci 19,500,000,000.00 6,500,000 13.00%
Ryan Baldur 2,000,000,000.00 666,667 1.33%
Total Investment: 26,750,000,000.00 8,916,667 17.83%
Reserved
Juniorci 10,500,000,000.00 3,500,000 7.00%
The Arabian 1,500,000,000.00 500,000 1.00%
Total Reserved: 12,000,000,000.00 4,000,000 8.00%


Available Shares: 21,250,000,000.00 7,083,333 14.17%

@JerryTPepridge

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#48 - 2016-03-01 04:18:10 UTC
2016 January February March
Assets
Current 0.00 14,283,008,318.51 0.00
Manufacturing 0.00 4,498,154,174.90 0.00
Sell Orders 0.00 682,494,505.00 0.00
Total Assets: 0.00 19,463,656,998.41 0.00

Cash Flow
Business Division
Contract Collateral 0.00 0.00 0.00
Escrow 0.00 0.00 0.00
Escrow To Cover 0.00 0.00 0.00
Wallet Balance 0.00 3,911,000,760.89 0.00
Invesment Capital Division
Wallet Balance 0.00 5,578,787,473.55 0.00
Total Cash Flow: 0.00 9,489,788,234.44 0.00

Dividends Payout (50%): 0.00 0.00 0.00

Net Asset Value (NAV): 0.00 28,953,445,232.85 0.00

Assets: Eric de'Locke's assets is included until AEGIS Logistics has paid back all investments or becomes self-sufficient, whichever comes first.
Dividend Payout is calculated at 50% of Total Cash Flow less Investment Capital.

Dividend Payout Date: None None 31 March




@JerryTPepridge

Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#49 - 2016-03-01 04:20:55 UTC
thing with goole spreadsheets is you can manip the data anytime u want with no accountabilty.

thats why ppl post details here.

you know to show tracibity.

@JerryTPepridge

Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2016-03-01 11:17:15 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
thing with goole spreadsheets is you can manip the data anytime u want with no accountabilty.

thats why ppl post details here.

you know to show tracibity.


Any data can be manipulated, that's where trust comes in, and why I've put everything into a Google spreadsheet so that interested parties can make copies and monitor the corporation's progress as they see fit.
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2016-03-01 23:10:13 UTC  |  Edited by: virm pasuul
For 5 billion ISK I will show you how you should have run this scam properly which would have had much better results.
Scamming is an art. Doing a sloppy job brings scamming into disrepute. You should be ashamed.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#52 - 2016-03-02 06:57:20 UTC
Eric de'Locke wrote:
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
thing with goole spreadsheets is you can manip the data anytime u want with no accountabilty.

thats why ppl post details here.

you know to show tracibity.


Any data can be manipulated, that's where trust comes in, and why I've put everything into a Google spreadsheet so that interested parties can make copies and monitor the corporation's progress as they see fit.


Not here

pre-edited posts get saved to eve search

lrn2scam - drop the roleplay about corporations, you are just a guy playing a video game.

worm passel could help you out, in trade offer to cut his hair.

win win

@JerryTPepridge

Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2016-03-02 08:52:09 UTC
virm pasuul wrote:
For 5 billion ISK I will show you how you should have run this scam properly which would have had much better results.
Scamming is an art. Doing a sloppy job brings scamming into disrepute. You should be ashamed.


Thanks, but no. I'm not interested in scamming. And anyone that is brings their character into question, not to mention their real life personality.
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2016-03-02 16:27:47 UTC  |  Edited by: virm pasuul
Eric de'Locke wrote:
virm pasuul wrote:
For 5 billion ISK I will show you how you should have run this scam properly which would have had much better results.
Scamming is an art. Doing a sloppy job brings scamming into disrepute. You should be ashamed.


Thanks, but no. I'm not interested in scamming. And anyone that is brings their character into question, not to mention their real life personality.


Would it be fair to say by extension of your sentiment that in your opinion CCP is a disreputable company in real life for allowing scamming in Eve?
I would disagree with that strongly.

There's nothing wrong with scamming in Eve. Some of us have no issues with playing a game differently from how we behave outside of that game.
Sloppy scamming in Eve with low effort, is symptomatic of a lazy, unfocused, unimaginative, attention deficit serial quitter in real life. That's my opinion anyway.
Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2016-03-02 18:17:59 UTC
virm pasuul wrote:
Eric de'Locke wrote:
virm pasuul wrote:
For 5 billion ISK I will show you how you should have run this scam properly which would have had much better results.
Scamming is an art. Doing a sloppy job brings scamming into disrepute. You should be ashamed.


Thanks, but no. I'm not interested in scamming. And anyone that is brings their character into question, not to mention their real life personality.


Would it be fair to say by extension of your sentiment that in your opinion CCP is a disreputable company in real life for allowing scamming in Eve?
I would disagree with that strongly.

There's nothing wrong with scamming in Eve. Some of us have no issues with playing a game differently from how we behave outside of that game.
Sloppy scamming in Eve with low effort, is symptomatic of a lazy, unfocused, unimaginative, attention deficit serial quitter in real life. That's my opinion anyway.


There's nothing wrong with scamming in Eve??? Lol, sure, there's nothing wrong with depriving someone of their ISK so you can gain more. Speaks volumes of your moral compass. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should. The way you feel about sloppy scamming is how I feel about scamming in general.
Jerry T Pepridge
Meta Game Analysis and Investment INC.
#56 - 2016-03-03 00:08:07 UTC
Eric de'Locke wrote:

There's nothing wrong with scamming in Eve??? Lol, sure, there's nothing wrong with depriving someone of their ISK so you can gain more. Speaks volumes of your moral compass. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should. The way you feel about sloppy scamming is how I feel about scamming in general.


he is a realist, you however are creating a corporation in a space game, with aims & struct governance.

moral compass, internet game, dude u need to go ahead lurk moar.

@JerryTPepridge

Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2016-03-03 03:33:52 UTC
Jerry T Pepridge wrote:
Eric de'Locke wrote:

There's nothing wrong with scamming in Eve??? Lol, sure, there's nothing wrong with depriving someone of their ISK so you can gain more. Speaks volumes of your moral compass. Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should. The way you feel about sloppy scamming is how I feel about scamming in general.


he is a realist, you however are creating a corporation in a space game, with aims & struct governance.

moral compass, internet game, dude u need to go ahead lurk moar.


Na, I prefer to play and I'm enjoying the trolling Big smileBig smileBig smile
Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2016-03-06 14:09:37 UTC
Still trading, only a few shares left Big smile
virm pasuul
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#59 - 2016-03-07 14:21:49 UTC  |  Edited by: virm pasuul
When I played World of Warcraft I used to kill animals, monsters, and people of opposing races because that was the primary method of progression in that game. Not only that but I use to loot their fresh corpses and take their possessions too. My wife still plays that game and when she kills an animal for her own advancement she then skins the still warm corpse and sells the hide, again for her own personal gain.

What we do in imaginary games, especially as our actions are steered by the mechanics the game developers put in place, does not necessarily reflect upon or real life personalities. It's a form of escapism, that why games have themes that encourage and evoke the imagination. Swords and spells, swashbuckling pirates on the high seas, disco spaceships in futuristic galaxies, alien races in conflict, cops and robbers shooting it out, soldiers at war.

Playing a game in a fantasy setting that involves conflict makes you no more a warmonger than watching a movie on the same subject. Watching a murder mystery, or playing a murder mystery game does not make you a murderer. To assert so would be a ridiculous extension well beyond logic.

Honesty has a value in Eve, and to play honestly or dishonestly in game has in game consequences. A known scammer will find it hard to engage with other players in game mechanics that requires trust. Some players will only scam on certain characters, and play other characters completely honestly. Then there is also the question of degree. If you see a player or character as completely honest or dishonest you are ignoring all sorts of subtleties of the human character.
I once had a very well known scammer loan me what to me was a very significant amount of ISK based on no more than "hey xxxxxxx1 lend me xxxxxxxxxxx ISK please" To me it was a fortune, to them it was probably an insignificant drop in the ocean. I was curious about how being a scammer they loaned the money so easily to someone they barely knew, but I paid it back anyway.
And coming at it from the opposite point of view, there are some well known honest characters in Eve, but this honesty is generally regarded as having limits. e.g. They will look after 10s of billions fine, but put 10 or 100 trillion ISK in their care, in one go and lets see if they are still honest?

I don't believe the world is as black and white as you so publicly profess. In my opinion most people who loudly and publicly profess to be completely honest are in reality probably high risk. I personally would much rather loan ISK to someone who knows their limits, especially if I know where those limits are too, than someone who thinks their virtue is beyond reproach, and makes a big public display of it. That's a recipe for disappointment, and i have no intention of being the one who picks up the tab for that lesson.

I also think your assertion than dishonest in game = dishonest IRL complete and utter illogical baloney, little more than attempt at public virtue signalling in the mistaken belief that it will make people trust you. In my case I trust you less for it, not more.
Eric de'Locke
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2016-03-07 15:49:47 UTC
virm pasuul wrote:
When I played World of Warcraft I used to kill animals, monsters, and people of opposing races because that was the primary method of progression in that game. Not only that but I use to loot their fresh corpses and take their possessions too. My wife still plays that game and when she kills an animal for her own advancement she then skins the still warm corpse and sells the hide, again for her own personal gain.

What we do in imaginary games, especially as our actions are steered by the mechanics the game developers put in place, does not necessarily reflect upon or real life personalities. It's a form of escapism, that why games have themes that encourage and evoke the imagination. Swords and spells, swashbuckling pirates on the high seas, disco spaceships in futuristic galaxies, alien races in conflict, cops and robbers shooting it out, soldiers at war.

Playing a game in a fantasy setting that involves conflict makes you no more a warmonger than watching a movie on the same subject. Watching a murder mystery, or playing a murder mystery game does not make you a murderer. To assert so would be a ridiculous extension well beyond logic.

Honesty has a value in Eve, and to play honestly or dishonestly in game has in game consequences. A known scammer will find it hard to engage with other players in game mechanics that requires trust. Some players will only scam on certain characters, and play other characters completely honestly. Then there is also the question of degree. If you see a player or character as completely honest or dishonest you are ignoring all sorts of subtleties of the human character.
I once had a very well known scammer loan me what to me was a very significant amount of ISK based on no more than "hey xxxxxxx1 lend me xxxxxxxxxxx ISK please" To me it was a fortune, to them it was probably an insignificant drop in the ocean. I was curious about how being a scammer they loaned the money so easily to someone they barely knew, but I paid it back anyway.
And coming at it from the opposite point of view, there are some well known honest characters in Eve, but this honesty is generally regarded as having limits. e.g. They will look after 10s of billions fine, but put 10 or 100 trillion ISK in their care, in one go and lets see if they are still honest?

I don't believe the world is as black and white as you so publicly profess. In my opinion most people who loudly and publicly profess to be completely honest are in reality probably high risk. I personally would much rather loan ISK to someone who knows their limits, especially if I know where those limits are too, than someone who thinks their virtue is beyond reproach, and makes a big public display of it. That's a recipe for disappointment, and i have no intention of being the one who picks up the tab for that lesson.

I also think your assertion than dishonest in game = dishonest IRL complete and utter illogical baloney, little more than attempt at public virtue signalling in the mistaken belief that it will make people trust you. In my case I trust you less for it, not more.


Whether you trust me or not is of no consequence.

Scamming is not part of the game mechanic for advancement of your character like killing animals and selling their hide is in WoW (which I've never played). Scamming has a real life effect on those that get scammed as ISK has a real life value in the form of PLEX. So yes, I am against scamming and see it as a lazy man's way of making money. After all I am here to play a game and have fun with the friends I have made. That's why I as a player and a person have chosen to play my character(s) with the same morality that I have in life. So if you are happy scamming someone out of the ISK that they where hoping to use to pay of the PLEX they needed to play the game then that's your choice. It's not mine and never will be. If you think that I am a scammer, then that is your prerogative. So again, whether you trust me or not is of no consequence as you have chosen to play as you wish and so have I.