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Vote Xenuria: CSM 11 - Reform The CSM

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Xenuria
#161 - 2016-02-23 19:15:24 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
I am sorry that you feel so negatively about me.
You could potentially fix that, you know.


Actually, when a delusion is strong enough no amount of effort can uproot it.
True, which is why I don't expect you to ever deserve a vote outside trolls or 'punishers', but still, it's possible in principle.

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This is why I have been prioritizing legitimate questions and concerns.
It's almost cute that you think so. I haven't seen you respond to any hard question with anything but vagueness, misdirection, obfuscation, insult or claim of conspiracy, and you've barely responded even to easy questions, such as appeals to expand on your platform by what looks like potential voters.

I'm quite amused by your antics, both because your arguments are so insane and poor that the only thing you realistically could accomplish on the CSM is having it shut down (And if I am to believe your co-Goon Sion, that won't change much), and because it's actually hilarious. I've been following or participating in various political campaigns for close to 10 years now, and yours is the greatest combination ever of delusions, martyrdom syndromes, messiah complexes and total incompetence.
You're the best kind of political entertainment. It's all the joys of watching a campaign of conspiracy nuts, added with the excitement that they might get in (Granted, a position on which I've changed my mind after seeing how little power the CSM has), but minus the fear of them mucking it all up. It's like certain US candidates, just virtual and without consequences.
Please do continue. You never cease to amuse and amaze me.



There is no conspiracy here... I have already addressed assertions that one existed.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#162 - 2016-02-24 05:58:09 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
I'm quite amused by your antics, both because your arguments are so insane and poor that the only thing you realistically could accomplish on the CSM is having it shut down (And if I am to believe your co-Goon Sion, that won't change much), and because it's actually hilarious. I've been following or participating in various political campaigns for close to 10 years now, and yours is the greatest combination ever of delusions, martyrdom syndromes, messiah complexes and total incompetence.
You're the best kind of political entertainment. It's all the joys of watching a campaign of conspiracy nuts, added with the excitement that they might get in (Granted, a position on which I've changed my mind after seeing how little power the CSM has), but minus the fear of them mucking it all up. It's like certain US candidates, just virtual and without consequences.
Please do continue. You never cease to amuse and amaze me.



There is no conspiracy here... I have already addressed assertions that one existed.
1) I'm not sure you actually read it, because nowhere did I claim this is a conspiracy. IF CFC decides to endorse you, there are a limited number of reasons, and I don't know which one, but it's clearly not a conspiracy. Like when they flew drakes into Titans gunfire, or when they cabalised moons, or the like, it was sold (During or after) as a plan to put pressure on CCP. What will happen here, we don't know.
2) Do feel free to link to or cite your rebuttal.
3) Unless, that is, it's just your word against someone elses. Someone might claim conspiracy based on conjecture, but a known liar can't address that with words alone. You lie (Or self-delude, let's be honest, it's a valid option), continually, and there's no reason to trust your word.
Xenuria
#163 - 2016-02-24 14:57:53 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
I'm quite amused by your antics, both because your arguments are so insane and poor that the only thing you realistically could accomplish on the CSM is having it shut down (And if I am to believe your co-Goon Sion, that won't change much), and because it's actually hilarious. I've been following or participating in various political campaigns for close to 10 years now, and yours is the greatest combination ever of delusions, martyrdom syndromes, messiah complexes and total incompetence.
You're the best kind of political entertainment. It's all the joys of watching a campaign of conspiracy nuts, added with the excitement that they might get in (Granted, a position on which I've changed my mind after seeing how little power the CSM has), but minus the fear of them mucking it all up. It's like certain US candidates, just virtual and without consequences.
Please do continue. You never cease to amuse and amaze me.



There is no conspiracy here... I have already addressed assertions that one existed.
1) I'm not sure you actually read it, because nowhere did I claim this is a conspiracy. IF CFC decides to endorse you, there are a limited number of reasons, and I don't know which one, but it's clearly not a conspiracy. Like when they flew drakes into Titans gunfire, or when they cabalised moons, or the like, it was sold (During or after) as a plan to put pressure on CCP. What will happen here, we don't know.
2) Do feel free to link to or cite your rebuttal.
3) Unless, that is, it's just your word against someone elses. Someone might claim conspiracy based on conjecture, but a known liar can't address that with words alone. You lie (Or self-delude, let's be honest, it's a valid option), continually, and there's no reason to trust your word.


You say that there is no reason to trust my word.
Can you provides examples of this within the context of eve online CSM?
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#164 - 2016-02-24 17:21:03 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
You say that there is no reason to trust my word.
Can you provides examples of this within the context of eve online CSM?
All the other times you've asked me to prove it I have done so, and you have ignored it each time. Is it going to be any different this time? No, of course not. A worthless messiah-complex (Or troll) candidate like you won't, because reading enough of it to comprehend it might ruin your bubble of self-delusion (Or not be fun, if you're just a troll).
I'll still give a list of links (Not quotes, though, since closed threads, character limits and quote limits makes such an effort too much work), so that anyone who follows along can see what a dishonest, megalomaniacal career-politician you are.

IN THIS (YOUR CURRENT) CSM11 THREAD:
I ask a question about your last CSM11 thread, that you then do not answer though you quote parts of it and the following discussion, but when I call you out on it, you ask if I have any specific questions. I repeat those questions (And Seraph also asks for a reply to his questions), but you ignore that and instead answer a potential voter with one of the blandest answers I've seen in a long time (Mind you, politics is what I do and study, I've seen a lot of politician-talk, and yours takes the cake). I call you out on your refusal to answer my questions, and you ask for proof that you're lying (See a pattern?), at which point I repeat that I quoted that exact evidence earlier, but you never addressed it. You admit that you have no clue, or, as Seraph puts it, "We have to vote the bill in before we know what it says". As Neuntausend astutely points out, we have to believe that a person that can't put together a platform shall, once elected, be able to produce a reform (And let's remind ourselves that your earlier attempt at that feat was to literally define reform - we might as well elect a dictionary!) that will work and improve the CSM and be agreeable to CCP. That's a tall order even for a master diplomat, and an impossible one for someone with your qualifications.
You also claim that you don't think your CFC membership can influence you (And clarify it at length later), and that you will call out any CFC wrongdoing. This is contradicted by your earlier "campaigns", as we shall note later.
You claim that you have prioritised legitimate questions, but as we have seen, you don't even answer easy questions by potential voters, and classify any hard question as not legitimate.

IN YOUR EARLIER CSM11 THREAD:
First, I like how you posted your CSM11 thread directly after losing the CSM10 election, and with a one of the least relevant platforms in a long time, but still manage to make it probably your best CSM OP/platform posts (As Malcanis also notes on first page). However, there were still a number of questions unanswered from your last CSM campaign thread, so I quote the relevant parts, but like we're all used to, you refuse to answer even easy questions (And those would have been easy unless you were a lying sack of fill-in-the-blanks).
As is your MO, you try to deflect any questions with allegations that others can't stay on topic, and then promptly fails at your own platform and basic understanding of microtransactions, EVE and the meaning of words (Again, a dictionary would be better than you). I have made this point before. It shouldn't be hard, but apparently for you, it is, since people posting in the thread had to explain the effects of your platform to you (Just one of several examples, this one sums up your misunderstanding well when you include the quotes).
Like what we've come to expect of you, you either troll, lie or misunderstand (Even to the point where you misunderstand yourself, amazingly enough), and if that doesn't work, claim "conspiracy".

IN YOUR CSM10 THREAD:
I'm down to 90 characters, so I'll just link it and see if you can figure it out yourself. There might be an election coming up in my home country tonight and I'm a candidate for Parliament: I'm going to participate in it. That means I might be occupied elsewhere, so an expansion on this point might have to wait, "sorry" about that.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#165 - 2016-02-24 20:05:38 UTC
Assuming a successful election to the CSM, what aspects of the Committee would you propose reforming, to what degree and why?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Rob Kaichin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#166 - 2016-02-25 16:02:34 UTC
OK Xenuria.

Whilst you've been a member of Karmafleet, 1) what problems have you had with Goonswarm? and 2) what criticisms of Goonswarm and Karmafleet do you have?

Finally, I'm looking for a in depth enumeration of your reform plan. Apart from the OP, what else do you have planned, and where else have you mentioned your plans?
Xenuria
#167 - 2016-02-25 16:21:16 UTC
Rob Kaichin wrote:
OK Xenuria.

Whilst you've been a member of Karmafleet, 1) what problems have you had with Goonswarm? and 2) what criticisms of Goonswarm and Karmafleet do you have?

Finally, I'm looking for a in depth enumeration of your reform plan. Apart from the OP, what else do you have planned, and where else have you mentioned your plans?



So far I haven't had any issues with karmafleet or goonswarm. Everybody has been really nice to me.

As I have said before depth at this juncture is somewhat difficult because there is information I simply don't have access too.

If you ask a carpenter to reform your kitchen floor, he's going to want to look at it first.
Vote me in and trust that I know what I am doing.

If I do, everybody wins.
If I don't, you have lost nothing.
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#168 - 2016-02-26 00:52:37 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Xenuria wrote:
You say that there is no reason to trust my word.
Can you provides examples of this within the context of eve online CSM?
All the other times you've asked me to prove it I have done so, and you have ignored it each time. Is it going to be any different this time? No, of course not. A worthless messiah-complex (Or troll) candidate like you won't, because reading enough of it to comprehend it might ruin your bubble of self-delusion (Or not be fun, if you're just a troll).
I'll still give a list of links (Not quotes, though, since closed threads, character limits and quote limits makes such an effort too much work), so that anyone who follows along can see what a dishonest, megalomaniacal career-politician you are.
And, as predicted, you won't face the reality that you're the very problem you claim to desire removed.
You're a worthless, mindless (And yet egomaniacal) tool, whose only problem is that Xenuria is not on CSM, and the only fix is to join the only group who can get you elected despite your "qualifications" and your "platform".

And now you've shown that we both know.
Election is at least postponed until Wednesday, so until then I can enjoy your antics. Please do continue. Cool
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#169 - 2016-02-26 11:54:26 UTC
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As I have said before depth at this juncture is somewhat difficult because there is information I simply don't have access too



Yeah, but you could at least extrapolate potential avenues of reform, even if you don't have all of the information; in fact, you'd be wise to do just that, in order to be as prepared as possible if the time ever comes for you to attend the CSM.

However, seeing as you just rudely ignored my question and instead responded to the poster below me asking about Goonswarm, you can count my vote out. I was on the fence, thinking that you might bring an element of randomness to the proceedings, but based on your behaviour to me and several other people in this thread, I don't think so now. I know my vote doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it is my vote and I choose not to expend it on you.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Jacques d'Orleans
#170 - 2016-02-27 08:07:05 UTC
Bumblefck wrote:
Quote:
As I have said before depth at this juncture is somewhat difficult because there is information I simply don't have access too



Yeah, but you could at least extrapolate potential avenues of reform, even if you don't have all of the information; in fact, you'd be wise to do just that, in order to be as prepared as possible if the time ever comes for you to attend the CSM.

However, seeing as you just rudely ignored my question and instead responded to the poster below me asking about Goonswarm, you can count my vote out. I was on the fence, thinking that you might bring an element of randomness to the proceedings, but based on your behaviour to me and several other people in this thread, I don't think so now. I know my vote doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it is my vote and I choose not to expend it on you.


Tbh, what do you expect?
Of course he is not answering! That guy hasn't the slightest clue and is nothing more than Mittens court jester.
To be brutally frank, if that guy is elected into the CSM, i really hope it doesn't take long until he's removed by CCP.
Otoh, after the shyteshow that has been CSM X, CCP should just disband it and be done with it.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#171 - 2016-02-27 13:55:04 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Tbh, what do you expect?
Of course he is not answering! That guy hasn't the slightest clue and is nothing more than Mittens court jester.




I know, of course, but I'm a sucker for troll-bait Big smile

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Xenuria
#172 - 2016-02-27 18:18:43 UTC
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Quote:
As I have said before depth at this juncture is somewhat difficult because there is information I simply don't have access too



Yeah, but you could at least extrapolate potential avenues of reform, even if you don't have all of the information; in fact, you'd be wise to do just that, in order to be as prepared as possible if the time ever comes for you to attend the CSM.

However, seeing as you just rudely ignored my question and instead responded to the poster below me asking about Goonswarm, you can count my vote out. I was on the fence, thinking that you might bring an element of randomness to the proceedings, but based on your behaviour to me and several other people in this thread, I don't think so now. I know my vote doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it is my vote and I choose not to expend it on you.


Tbh, what do you expect?
Of course he is not answering! That guy hasn't the slightest clue and is nothing more than Mittens court jester.
To be brutally frank, if that guy is elected into the CSM, i really hope it doesn't take long until he's removed by CCP.
Otoh, after the shyteshow that has been CSM X, CCP should just disband it and be done with it.


oh ye of little faith.
Jacques d'Orleans
#173 - 2016-02-27 19:40:11 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
Bumblefck wrote:
Quote:
As I have said before depth at this juncture is somewhat difficult because there is information I simply don't have access too



Yeah, but you could at least extrapolate potential avenues of reform, even if you don't have all of the information; in fact, you'd be wise to do just that, in order to be as prepared as possible if the time ever comes for you to attend the CSM.

However, seeing as you just rudely ignored my question and instead responded to the poster below me asking about Goonswarm, you can count my vote out. I was on the fence, thinking that you might bring an element of randomness to the proceedings, but based on your behaviour to me and several other people in this thread, I don't think so now. I know my vote doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things, but it is my vote and I choose not to expend it on you.


Tbh, what do you expect?
Of course he is not answering! That guy hasn't the slightest clue and is nothing more than Mittens court jester.
To be brutally frank, if that guy is elected into the CSM, i really hope it doesn't take long until he's removed by CCP.
Otoh, after the shyteshow that has been CSM X, CCP should just disband it and be done with it.


oh ye of little faith.


“A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.”
― Friedrich Nietzsche
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#174 - 2016-02-27 19:46:22 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

Quote:
Tbh, what do you expect?
Of course he is not answering! That guy hasn't the slightest clue and is nothing more than Mittens court jester.
To be brutally frank, if that guy is elected into the CSM, i really hope it doesn't take long until he's removed by CCP.
Otoh, after the shyteshow that has been CSM X, CCP should just disband it and be done with it.


oh ye of little faith.



And yet you still don't respond to my quite civil and interested questions, and choose instead to issue a one liner to another person, thereby reinforcing what others have said about you to be apparently quite true. Lovely.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Rob Kaichin
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#175 - 2016-03-01 16:52:12 UTC
What's your response to Sion's problems, and how will you react to them if you get elected?

This is already out in the public view, so you should have no problems answering.
Xenuria
#176 - 2016-03-01 17:11:41 UTC
Rob Kaichin wrote:
What's your response to Sion's problems, and how will you react to them if you get elected?

This is already out in the public view, so you should have no problems answering.


I think many of the problems sion, sugar, sort and others faced were the result of mismanagement on part of CCP, couple that with communication break downs and have you a recipe for disaster. CCP appears legitimately interesting in salvaging relations as they have put new people in charge of the CSM and made assurances of civility.

If by some misfortune remnants of these problems exist, I am a very enduring and persistent individual. I can handle being berated and insulted by people I look up too. I won't be a better CSM than sion or anybody. I will be a different kind of CSM.


I think even my worst detractors would agree that different~ is preferred at this juncture.
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#177 - 2016-03-01 20:25:39 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

I think even my worst detractors would agree that different~ is preferred at this juncture.




Certainly not your kind of '~different', though. Not with your attitudinal maladjustments.

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log

Lauresh Thellere
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#178 - 2016-03-02 13:55:13 UTC
Xenuria wrote:

I think many of the problems sion, sugar, sort and others faced were the result of mismanagement on part of CCP,


Saying it was CCP's fault and not failures by all parties involved is just shifting blame. The CSM's and the general population of EVE are just as much to blame as CCP.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#179 - 2016-03-02 16:27:25 UTC
This might amuse you, Xen.
Jenshae puts on a tinfoil hat and D-scans for Nargles

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Tech3ZH
Doomheim
#180 - 2016-03-03 12:00:52 UTC
Voted for Xenuria.


watch the...er...feel the burn!