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Loot management in non-corp fleets
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Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2016-02-24 19:41:25 UTC
Is there any way to control loot in a fleet? For example, if I am ganged with someone who is not in a corp with me or I just know casually and we do a complex and something valuable drops, it would appear he can just take it and leave. Is there any way to prevent this from happening?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2016-02-24 19:52:12 UTC
Get there first.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#3 - 2016-02-24 20:30:09 UTC
alternatively being a bloodthirsty savage works well to.

people tend not to steal from them.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2016-02-24 21:10:09 UTC
Droidster wrote:
Is there any way to control loot in a fleet? For example, if I am ganged with someone who is not in a corp with me or I just know casually and we do a complex and something valuable drops, it would appear he can just take it and leave. Is there any way to prevent this from happening?


There are several ways, including, but not limited to:

Warp scramblers
Warp disruptors
Warp disruption field generators
Interdiction sphere launchers
Getting there first
Preemptive annihilation of your fleetmate

"Help, I'm bored with missions!"

http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
#5 - 2016-02-24 21:59:41 UTC
Use your words, appeal to their humanity. When that inevitably fails you may need to resort to passive aggression or even just the regular flavour of aggression.
Helios Anduath
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2016-02-24 23:31:22 UTC
No, eve is a harsh world and there is nothing stopping you taking the valuable module and running with it. You can see what people have taken from the fleet window though.
VainGlory
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2016-02-25 04:24:42 UTC
I heard asking them nicely works, I got that info from jita local chat so it must be true....
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#8 - 2016-02-25 05:24:47 UTC
If it isn't my mates, I will crash a Plex and steal the loot 100% of the time.

I will add that I am sure of my capabilities, and theirs when I do this.

If it's a camp or roam, loot goes to pay any pilots who lost ships.

So there is no loot "settings" just good ole' fashioned ehonor. Do with that what you will.

Loyd and Ralph's advice is as solid as any, and if they take the time to post in your thread their advice is usually the most usable. They may seem like trolls, but you have to understand their bitter cynicism.
Paranoid Loyd
#9 - 2016-02-25 07:33:33 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
bitter cynicism.

If you say so. Smile

I don't consider myself bitter, I simply tell it like it is. The game is what it is, the only people who would consider me or Ralph a troll, simply don't accept the game for what it is or in some cases are oblivious to what it is.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#10 - 2016-02-25 10:26:14 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
pushdogg wrote:
bitter cynicism.

If you say so. Smile

I don't consider myself bitter, I simply tell it like it is. The game is what it is, the only people who would consider me or Ralph a troll, simply don't accept the game for what it is or in some cases are oblivious to what it is.


You didn't refute the cynicism.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#11 - 2016-02-25 10:36:58 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
pushdogg wrote:
bitter cynicism.

If you say so. Smile

I don't consider myself bitter, I simply tell it like it is. The game is what it is, the only people who would consider me or Ralph a troll, simply don't accept the game for what it is or in some cases are oblivious to what it is.


You didn't refute the cynicism.

Dude his name is Paranoid Loyd.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2016-02-25 10:57:56 UTC
There is no honor among thieves.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#13 - 2016-02-25 11:09:52 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
There is no honor among thieves.

there is if they know you will murder their faces off, for weeks on end after a slight.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
#14 - 2016-02-25 12:38:40 UTC
pushdogg wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
pushdogg wrote:
bitter cynicism.

If you say so. Smile

I don't consider myself bitter, I simply tell it like it is. The game is what it is, the only people who would consider me or Ralph a troll, simply don't accept the game for what it is or in some cases are oblivious to what it is.


You didn't refute the cynicism.



I always thought Loyd was an optimist....

Will gank for food
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#15 - 2016-02-25 13:37:58 UTC
Was your idea in F&I not enough, that you must inflict your tears on other subforums as well?

Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .

Bumble's Space Log
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#16 - 2016-02-25 14:52:18 UTC
Let me rephrase that question for you Droidster.

Is there an in game switch that will prevent my "friends" from stealing MY loot?

Answer - No there is no switch you can use to prevent it.

"If you do not see it my way I have not been sufficiently violent with you."
I heard that once and in a different setting but it seems appropriate to this situation so I leave it here for you to consider.
Paranoid Loyd
#17 - 2016-02-25 16:37:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
pushdogg wrote:
You didn't refute the cynicism.
It's a large part of the meta game. You're pretty much a fool if you are not cynical. To me there is a large difference between bitter cynicism and cynicism is all I was saying. The need for cynicism is one of the things that makes the game great, however, if you let it degrade into bitter cynicism you are either pigeonholeing your game play or not enjoying it and should probably stop playing.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#18 - 2016-02-25 16:54:53 UTC
BTW, this can still happen in a corp fleet. It can happen in any fleet. Fly with those you only trust or you know IRL.

Also, what is to prevent the OP from taking the loot and not sharing the dividends? Answer: Nothing.
pushdogg
relocation LLC.
#19 - 2016-02-25 21:50:22 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
pushdogg wrote:
You didn't refute the cynicism.
It's a large part of the meta game. You're pretty much a fool if you are not cynical. To me there is a large difference between bitter cynicism and cynicism is all I was saying. The need for cynicism is one of the things that makes the game great, however, if you let it degrade into bitter cynicism you are either pigeonholeing your game play or not enjoying it and should probably stop playing.



I really didn't think that or any of my comments would resonate with you like that. Color me flattered.....
Paranoid Loyd
#20 - 2016-02-25 22:02:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
pushdogg wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
pushdogg wrote:
You didn't refute the cynicism.
It's a large part of the meta game. You're pretty much a fool if you are not cynical. To me there is a large difference between bitter cynicism and cynicism is all I was saying. The need for cynicism is one of the things that makes the game great, however, if you let it degrade into bitter cynicism you are either pigeonholeing your game play or not enjoying it and should probably stop playing.



I really didn't think that or any of my comments would resonate with you like that. Color me flattered.....
I get called a lot of things in this game. While I don't let it bother me, I do think about the things people say. When people I respect say things that make me think they don't really know where I am coming from I will take the time to try to articulate it better.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
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