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Nerokor
Black Metal Industrial
#1 - 2016-02-23 02:14:33 UTC
Hello All,

I believe this may have been posted already but here I go anyway. When you extract skills, lets say for example, all of your industry skills all the way down to 0. Once you extract them the skill remains there but at level 0, I find this to be kind of annoying as I would like to remove the skill permanently. CCP could you consider making this an option? Being able to remove the book when it is currently sitting at level 0? I would like to hear who else would like to see something like this implemented. Thanks

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#2 - 2016-02-23 02:49:32 UTC
This is intended I believe. Just think of it like this, you have all those skills at 0, so that means if you ever decide to train those skills again you won't need to buy and inject another skillbook.

Why not collect a lot of skillbooks and inject them? Your character will be prepared for anything. Embrace the 0.

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2016-02-23 02:58:17 UTC
Think of it this way. If you could delete those 0-SP skills entirely, some people would do it by mistake. This way, nobody ever has to ask for a GM to rescue them from paying twice for the same skillbook.

This frees up our GMs to handle more dire issues.

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Soleil Fournier
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2016-02-23 03:14:14 UTC
If it's about GMs and tickets, then meet us halfway.

Allow us to "Hide" skills we don't want to see on our page. Hidden skills would show on a new tab so we could unhide them later if we choose.

I -really- hate having to look at skills on my skillsheet I don't want to be there. Hiding them gets rid of that problem and avoids the problem you just described.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#5 - 2016-02-23 03:17:49 UTC
Soleil Fournier wrote:
If it's about GMs and tickets, then meet us halfway.

Allow us to "Hide" skills we don't want to see on our page. Hidden skills would show on a new tab so we could unhide them later if we choose.

I -really- hate having to look at skills on my skillsheet I don't want to be there. Hiding them gets rid of that problem and avoids the problem you just described.


There is already a filter option to hide skills with 0 points.

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Soleil Fournier
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#6 - 2016-02-23 03:22:08 UTC
I'd like the ability to hide skills that aren't at 0 sp too.
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#7 - 2016-02-23 03:24:43 UTC
A "Hide all skills at 0 SP" toggle would be nice for us OCD kids. Everything else has a filter system nowadays. Why not include the skill queue?

Could be good for general QOL. Turning the skill queue into an overview filter style would be awesome actually.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#8 - 2016-02-23 03:26:15 UTC
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Soleil Fournier wrote:
If it's about GMs and tickets, then meet us halfway.

Allow us to "Hide" skills we don't want to see on our page. Hidden skills would show on a new tab so we could unhide them later if we choose.

I -really- hate having to look at skills on my skillsheet I don't want to be there. Hiding them gets rid of that problem and avoids the problem you just described.


There is already a filter option to hide skills with 0 points.


Shocked Since when?

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2016-02-23 03:33:49 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Think of it this way. If you could delete those 0-SP skills entirely, some people would do it by mistake. This way, nobody ever has to ask for a GM to rescue them from paying twice for the same skillbook.

This frees up our GMs to handle more dire issues.

With the bonus of disproportionately annoying the neat freaks

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2016-02-23 03:35:40 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Think of it this way. If you could delete those 0-SP skills entirely, some people would do it by mistake. This way, nobody ever has to ask for a GM to rescue them from paying twice for the same skillbook.

This frees up our GMs to handle more dire issues.
I usually leave you guys be with whatever explanations you come up with for not fixing what's broken. Not this time, though.

That answer is complete BS. It's the kind of thing people from your plumber to the president say as an excuse when no better explanation can be made. "We're doing this because we care about you", instead of just coming out with the real answer. Probably something along the lines of, "No one currently working here has a clue how to code this without breaking the rest of the game."

Shame on you, CCP.

Mr Epeen Cool
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#11 - 2016-02-23 03:36:03 UTC
Sobaan Tali wrote:
SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Soleil Fournier wrote:
If it's about GMs and tickets, then meet us halfway.

Allow us to "Hide" skills we don't want to see on our page. Hidden skills would show on a new tab so we could unhide them later if we choose.

I -really- hate having to look at skills on my skillsheet I don't want to be there. Hiding them gets rid of that problem and avoids the problem you just described.


There is already a filter option to hide skills with 0 points.


Shocked Since when?


I don't know. A while. Click the little gear next to the filter box on your skill sheet.

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Kibitt Kallinikov
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#12 - 2016-02-23 07:21:05 UTC
Soleil Fournier wrote:
If it's about GMs and tickets, then meet us halfway.

Allow us to "Hide" skills we don't want to see on our page. Hidden skills would show on a new tab so we could unhide them later if we choose.

I -really- hate having to look at skills on my skillsheet I don't want to be there. Hiding them gets rid of that problem and avoids the problem you just described.



I like this proposal regardless of context. Being able to sift through skills with filters is useful.
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2016-02-23 07:52:38 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
CCP Darwin wrote:
Think of it this way. If you could delete those 0-SP skills entirely, some people would do it by mistake. This way, nobody ever has to ask for a GM to rescue them from paying twice for the same skillbook.

This frees up our GMs to handle more dire issues.
I usually leave you guys be with whatever explanations you come up with for not fixing what's broken. Not this time, though.

That answer is complete BS. It's the kind of thing people from your plumber to the president say as an excuse when no better explanation can be made. "We're doing this because we care about you", instead of just coming out with the real answer. Probably something along the lines of, "No one currently working here has a clue how to code this without breaking the rest of the game."

Shame on you, CCP.

Mr Epeen Cool


gotta have some sort of punishmen/inconveniece for skill extraction right? well an ugly skillsheet seems fair?

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Yarosara Ruil
#14 - 2016-02-23 10:07:47 UTC
I must be doing something wrong then because I've been injecting skill books like crazy. The ability to inject them without have the prerequisites is godsend! Having the full spectrum of available skills at my disposal saves me the long trips to a school station.

About 154 skill books injected. Send help!
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
#15 - 2016-02-23 12:57:00 UTC
Nerokor wrote:
Hello All,

I believe this may have been posted already but here I go anyway.





If you believe that this has been posted before - and indeed it has, several dozen times - why on earth do you feel the need to regurgitate it?

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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
#16 - 2016-02-23 13:06:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Dr Caymus
CCP Darwin wrote:
Think of it this way. If you could delete those 0-SP skills entirely, some people would do it by mistake. This way, nobody ever has to ask for a GM to rescue them from paying twice for the same skillbook.

This frees up our GMs to handle more dire issues.

Seriously??

What happened to the "cold, harsh world" line? You know, the line I always got when I'd fat-finger a trade order and lose a few bill to a bad order entry mechanic, for example...
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#17 - 2016-02-23 13:18:29 UTC
CCP Darwin wrote:
Think of it this way. If you could delete those 0-SP skills entirely, some people would do it by mistake. This way, nobody ever has to ask for a GM to rescue them from paying twice for the same skillbook.

This frees up our GMs to handle more dire issues.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

give people warning that they delete it and its on them, no refunds.

What happened to the CCP that had the above perspective
Yarosara Ruil
#18 - 2016-02-23 13:21:58 UTC
Dr Caymus wrote:

Seriously??

What happened to the "cold, harsh world" line? You know, the line I always got when I'd fat-finger a trade order and lose a few bill to a bad order entry mechanic, for example...


Because the "cold, harsh world" of a GM's job is already difficult as it is. Poor brave souls fight an uphill battle against the onslaught of cries for help that echo in the freezing hell that is the Help Desk. And if you haven't heard, they all have been incredibly swamped these past few days.

Even telling dumb tickets to go suck on a lemon takes valuable time that could be used to help people that really need it.
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#19 - 2016-02-23 14:31:50 UTC
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This has been discussed several times before, although now CCP Darwin has given you some reasoning behind why the skills are left behind. Closing this thread.

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