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Would still like pledge 20bn plx

What is this I don't even.

Will pledge 19bn plx

I am going to try and be helpfully constructive for a single post. I won't be posting again. Feel free to ignore.
The two dropbox shared links don't work for me. Expect someone who has 60 billion to invest to want to go through those documents. If you are genuine fix and test those links.

You now want 60 billion after failing at 50 billion?? Why?

If this is a genuine offer then consider doing the following:

1 ) Explain and show exactly how much you need from injectors to get your full production line up and working.
9 character times 3 months of skill points is not detailed enough, especially when at least 4 of those characters are already sufficiently skilled, or only need reduced skill to reach from T2 to T3. And you have already stated Eric is not part of this, so he shouldn't be included either. In another place you state only 7 characters will be involved.
Expect to have to prove this via API verification.
A guesstimate, especially a wildly inaccurate one will not do.

2 ) Detail exactly how the money will be spent.
From 1 above x billion on injectors, JF, etc.... How much will actually go into producing stock to be sold on the market.
This is important. The skill injection is sunk money that whilst it enables your production line is very illiquid. And turning it back into ISK would chew half of it up as money would have to be spent on skill extractors.
From the 50 or now 60 billion how much exactly would be spend on producing liquid assets to sell?

3 ) Projected earnings per share per month.
Detail exactly how much each share will earn per month. Show your workings.
Don't forget 50% of all profits go back into the business, before dividends so 40% shareholders only get 20% of the profits.
Compare this to the standard uncollateralized loan %age returns per month. Which is exactly what you are offering.

4 ) Why did 50 billion now become 60 billion? You have to explain things like this. Not everyone has 10 bill to throw away. To some of us it's a lot of money. It's over half your own assessment of your own assets.

5 ) Have a real think about what you are offering and how realistic are your expectations? 60 Billion uncollerallized for a first attempt in a game full of scam artists where no one trusts anyone. With a poor return rate. Does that makes sense to you?

6 ) Sell your scheme. If it's good it will be an easy sell, if it's a hard sell you might want to look at it from an investors point of view. See point 5 above.

7 ) Explain how you will have enough money in 6 months to cover the buyout if requested by investors. It seems to me you'd need 60 billion + liquid ISK in six months to do this, but you are sinking a whole ton of it in skill injectors, and you need to be paying out the investors monthly. Where it going to come from?

8 ) How will investors be able to track how much profit you are making? In fact how will you be tracking profit to know how much to pay investors?

Lastly. From your previous thread you called into question my knowledge of tech 2 manufacturing. On what basis I have no idea. Whilst I don't touch tech 3, I manufacture tech 2 ships from scratch myself, I do invention, PI, and ship manufacture. The only part I don't do myself is the reaction mats e.g. crystaline carbonide which I buy off the market. I build the components and then build the ships from the components, ship to market myself and sell. It was a poor choice on your behalf to assume you had knowledge of what I do in Eve and then condemn me for my lack of knowledge. Attitude counts in a game where trust is scarce. A poor attitude towards others in public can be costly.

Apologies if anything I have asked for is in the documents you have linked, but the links do not work for me from multiple computers.

Good luck.

I previously requested an API - I am still willing to go over it. Please show it to me so that I may make a decision based upon it. I refuse to pledge money to anyone when I cannot confirm anything they're saying.

Temp APIs sent

Because I'm not manufacturing all the ships in 1 go, just a small portion per day so the cost is easily covered by the profits held back for running costs.

So you've switched from asking for 50b in exchange for a 20% share of your profits to asking for 60b in exchange for a 40% share of half of your profits? What's your reasoning for the semantic gymnastics?

No, I've switched from asking for 50B to selling shares in order to raise capital for my little venture. The share price is based on actual NAV plus projected profits for the year divided by total shares which equates to 60B for a 40% shareholding. Which is basically how shares is calculated for a new corporation that begins trading in shares.

Unfortunately I'm unable to provide you with a full API for the account that Eric is on as he is in Factional Warfare, but the other accounts I'd be happy to provide as well as a an API for the corporation. I hope this won't be a deal breaker.

I have collateral worth a little over 18B mostly tied up in assets such as ships, a production tower, arrays and materials. I never expected my production to become this profitable as I was just doing it to provide ships for myself in FW, and now it's growing and I'd like to see that continue.

As provided in my income projections and production line linked above all invested capital will be paid back within 10 months, after that it's just gravy.

Don't feel bad, I've never heard of Jerry T Pepridge before either. Lol, glad to have been able to help you enjoy yourself :D