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Do EVE ships have interiors?
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Rebel Witch
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2016-02-20 06:52:45 UTC
I try to give a case for "yes they do" in this video. What do you think? Is it a good representation of a frigate interior?

Buzzard Interior

You can also see an impairor training frigate with extended cargo holds Here

Do eve ships have crew or interiors? What do you think the interior would look like?

What a game!
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2016-02-20 06:55:15 UTC
Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#3 - 2016-02-20 07:02:35 UTC
Rebel Witch wrote:
I try to give a case for "yes they do" in this video. What do you think? Is it a good representation of a frigate interior?

Buzzard Interior

You can also see an impairor training frigate with extended cargo holds Here

Do eve ships have crew or interiors? What do you think the interior would look like?

What a game!


All ships except capsules have a crew aboard. (1-3 for Frigate class) They maintain the ship and I heard they are able to take over and manually fly incase of problems with pilots connection to the ship.

So I heard.
Violet Hurst
Fedaya Recon
#4 - 2016-02-20 09:02:19 UTC
Rebel Witch wrote:
Do eve ships have crew or interiors?


Nah, interiors would just use up additional materials and add unnecessary weight to the ship. As for the crew, you can just duct-tape them to random I-beams. Works just as well.
Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#5 - 2016-02-20 09:12:14 UTC
Imagine the crew in your frigate turning to wallpaper paste as you accelerate from 0 to 4km/s in a second or two.

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Destiny Dain2
Your Destiny Corporation
#6 - 2016-02-20 09:17:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Destiny Dain2
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Imagine the crew in your frigate turning to wallpaper paste as you accelerate from 0 to 4km/s in a second or two.


Imagine all the clones that have gone down in our names. As the captains we are the only smart ones and eject from our ship and try and warp out of there in our pods while the rest go down with the ship.

I have never seen an escape pod leaving a ship.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#7 - 2016-02-20 10:43:01 UTC
There is chance of survival of the crew and you can read about it in evelopedia, but the survival is not shown in game. Its just a piece of lore.

Actually, heron isnt really big, I have made a comparison of cockpit to a human body in space. i dont know where they would put the rescue capsule. Mybe the cockpit would be a rescue capsule.

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TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2016-02-20 11:06:47 UTC
Azda Ja wrote:
Navy Comet.


Interesting. So the answer would be, yes they do have interiors but not in the classical crew sense. Every inch of available space is filled with extra ship systems that ordinarily wouldn't fit because of crew quarters. I guess that's why capsuleer ships are so much better than the ships regular pirates and empires use.

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Elite Harvester
Elite Harvesters
#9 - 2016-02-20 11:16:24 UTC
I am a very progressive man and am happy to announce my intention for a ship crewed entirely by Fedos.

They look so adorable in their little uniforms. The stains never seem to come out in the wash, unfortunately...

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#10 - 2016-02-20 13:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Sobaan Tali
Probably more drones or various forms of robotic minions than actual human crew. That makes more sense to me than an actual, even small, crew. While most people are rather biased to trusting humans to make decisions over machines more, machines are just far less limited in many ways compared to humans. Immunity to fear and fatigue, far more potential strength and precision, generally cheaper to implement, doesn't get bored, etc. Not that people don't have their values, and they are just as critical in most cases, but both have their places. Ships in Eve probably have the capsuleer and a bevy of automated machines to do the grunt work on-board, but there may also be crewed ships without a capsuleer I imagine.

Even the Air Force has admitted that for a long while now pilots, with their limitations on g-load tolerances and human biology, actually can be and often are a bottleneck for aircraft aerodynamic performance, especially in fighters. The F-22 for instance has built-in inhibitors to forcibly limit what it can do just so the pilot can survive the experience, where as a UCAV can do away with the need for a climate-controlled environment, an ejection seat, cockpit assembly, survival gear, and could turn on a dime without the fear of a pilot black/grey-out. Raptors (and most if not all 5th gen) could fly higher, turn harder, and do tricks that could make your head literally spin, but human pilots can't withstand that kind of a beating, so it's purposely held back so as not to pretty much kill the pilot during ACM. Mechanically and aerodynamically, it could do more than it can now. Granted, I'd also rather a human being actually be the one to pull the trigger when he/she is dumping a couple tons of ordinance.

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#11 - 2016-02-20 16:10:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Hal Morsh
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Imagine the crew in your frigate turning to wallpaper paste as you accelerate from 0 to 4km/s in a second or two.



I thought microwarps worked off gravity or some warp bubble mechanic, meaning the whole thing would effected right? Unless it works like mass effect fields in "mass effect". Then sure, wallpaper.


Besides that if I remember correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(TV_series)

Gotta copy and paste that one, or google it if you for some reason do not trust the link.

The ship in this TV show had a real crew at one point, then at another a bunch of humanoid robots walking about doing the tasks, whilst the actual main characters continued doing whatever they were doing.

It was quite the tv show XD

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Ibutho Inkosi
Doomheim
#12 - 2016-02-20 18:38:48 UTC
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#13 - 2016-02-20 18:39:34 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
There is chance of survival of the crew and you can read about it in evelopedia, but the survival is not shown in game. Its just a piece of lore.

Actually, heron isnt really big, I have made a comparison of cockpit to a human body in space. i dont know where they would put the rescue capsule. Mybe the cockpit would be a rescue capsule.
I hope you killed someone important or blew up a bling ship to acquire the human body for those comparison shots.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#14 - 2016-02-20 19:08:10 UTC
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#15 - 2016-02-21 06:05:29 UTC
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Imagine the crew in your frigate turning to wallpaper paste as you accelerate from 0 to 4km/s in a second or two.



Presumably ships have "dampers" in them.

Incidentally, one thing of sci fi lore, is that all ships have gravity that rarely quits. Star Trek was most notorious for this. You can have heavy beams falling and killing you, but the damned gravity was the last thing to quit. Every other system can be totally crapped out, but no, not the gravity. WTF?
The exception is "Undiscovered Country" where someone went out of their way to kill the gravity in a Klingon ship. Much chaos ensued though it was odd that Klingons who are normally warriors turned into total wimps without gravity.. What's up with that?

The damper thing only reared it's head once (far as I know) in a Deep Space 9 episode where a Jem'Haddar ship went into warp with a failure in the damping system and caused most of the crew to turn into jelly. There was a shapeshifter on board that survived. (memory is lost as to what else happened in that episode).

Will such things ever be a thing in RL?

Well the space program has found out that bone loss, even when astronauts get plenty of exercise, is a serious issue. So gravity or lack of it will be a problem in space.

As for dampers, it's not just for the crew. Put too many Gs on a fighter jet and the screws holding it together will snap. In order to keep the pilot from passing out, even at a low number of Gs, he has to wear a G suit, which is a suit with a series of air bladders in it that basically squeeze the crap out of the pilot to keep blood from pooling up in the wrong spots. Every fighter pilot I knew had some kind of physical issues with being beat up by Gs, usually minor intestinal issues that required only a little attention. Heavy Gs really beats the crap out of you.

If you can come up with a way to give permanent gravity and damping to a space ship, you would be very rich.

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#16 - 2016-02-21 08:16:48 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:
Navy Comet.


Interesting. So the answer would be, yes they do have interiors but not in the classical crew sense. Every inch of available space is filled with extra ship systems that ordinarily wouldn't fit because of crew quarters. I guess that's why capsuleer ships are so much better than the ships regular pirates and empires use.

As a Gallente ship, a Comet is expected to have high levels of automation and low crew numbers (2 - 3 for a ship flown by a capsuleer):

The Gallente Federation may have a large population but the average citizen is not inclined to join the Federal military. Moreover, the pressures of the first Caldari-Gallente War led the Federation to invest heavily in automation and military drones. This tendency has continued ever since, and the Gallente Navy has always ensured that their vessels are highly automated so as to allow them maximum use of their relatively tight personnel pool.

If CCP do a similar thing for a Minmatar frigate, more crew accommodations would be expected. More crew facilities would be present in larger ships of all races also.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#17 - 2016-02-21 12:32:58 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
There is chance of survival of the crew and you can read about it in evelopedia, but the survival is not shown in game. Its just a piece of lore.

Actually, heron isnt really big, I have made a comparison of cockpit to a human body in space. i dont know where they would put the rescue capsule. Mybe the cockpit would be a rescue capsule.
I hope you killed someone important or blew up a bling ship to acquire the human body for those comparison shots.

Mr Epeen Cool

Honestly? It splashed on my windscreen when undocking from Jita 4-4.

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Mr Mieyli
Doomheim
#18 - 2016-02-21 13:21:53 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
There is chance of survival of the crew and you can read about it in evelopedia, but the survival is not shown in game. Its just a piece of lore.

Actually, heron isnt really big, I have made a comparison of cockpit to a human body in space. i dont know where they would put the rescue capsule. Mybe the cockpit would be a rescue capsule.
I hope you killed someone important or blew up a bling ship to acquire the human body for those comparison shots.

Mr Epeen Cool

Honestly? It splashed on my windscreen when undocking from Jita 4-4.


There's still a bit stuck to your sensor array, better stop by the spacewash and hose it off.

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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#19 - 2016-02-21 17:14:35 UTC
Mr Mieyli wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
Nana Skalski wrote:
There is chance of survival of the crew and you can read about it in evelopedia, but the survival is not shown in game. Its just a piece of lore.

Actually, heron isnt really big, I have made a comparison of cockpit to a human body in space. i dont know where they would put the rescue capsule. Mybe the cockpit would be a rescue capsule.
I hope you killed someone important or blew up a bling ship to acquire the human body for those comparison shots.

Mr Epeen Cool

Honestly? It splashed on my windscreen when undocking from Jita 4-4.


There's still a bit stuck to your sensor array, better stop by the spacewash and hose it off.

It is gone already, my Fedo was hungry.

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Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2016-02-21 22:34:20 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:

Well the space program has found out that bone loss, even when astronauts get plenty of exercise, is a serious issue. So gravity or lack of it will be a problem in space.


All our science fiction will look very quaint to the people of the future, as all our solutions to space-faring are akin to a fish building a tank with filter to move around on land.
Instead, just as the fish became physically freakish what with lungs and flippers eventually turning to feet, we have to change to become sky travellers.
Since our bodies and minds are utterly terrestrial, the convergence of AI, robotics and gene tampering will be the point where we can take to the stars, together, forever. Until then it's endless, mindless internecine strife over fictional scarcity and artificially rationed dwindling resources.
The Jove short circuited the whole process by giving us the pod, a vessel that makes us the brains of ships and therefore space creatures by proxy, the deadliest critters in the cluster. Any residual crew are fringe dwelling no-hopers according to lore, willing to risk their lives for that dank cash. Ship interiors for human crew must be functional and minimal in the extreme. Ever seen the cupboard sized cabins people lived in for months, even years while circumnavigating the globe only 200 years ago?


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