Player Features and Ideas Discussion

it's more about insane market, and how few traders have total control over a meta game item.

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I know people that have stacks, thousands of plex. Same thing will be soon hit extractors/injectors.



People should invest in diffrent things than meta game items. Build stuff etc, intead of buying plex because it's guaranteed not to fall under current mechanics.

CCP is losing money on this ... the more plex cost the less people buy.

Sorry, it has been a bad idea presented before and is still a bad idea today.

Free markets is a win-win for everyone. For the player looking to convert cash to isk: it is a win. For the player looking to convert isk to play time: it is a win. For the player looking to invest in the future by moving ISK to PLEX: it usually is a win, but like real-estate, all markets have downturns.

i see where your coming from but you need to look at it in a different light

eve's market is a player run economy and as a economy it is subject to thing that happiness in a economy like recession, collapse of prices and spikes in prices est. Now CCP has done a great job keeping the market going and if something happen like a market collapse it would muck up every thing to the point of the hole market being reset witch would kill market and plex's are the back bone of EVE's player run economy witch will all way be traded like has been regardless what we say. IT IS A ITEM TO BUY (with ISK or €/$) AND SELL.


P.S if you dont like the price of buy PLEX i can show you how the make 8 billion in 4 week lol

It's a player driven economy, one of the foundations of Eve is that the economy is driven by players.

CCP are not responsible for the exchange rate of € to zł, your subscription/PLEX is a luxury; given that you claim to be able to buy a weeks worth of groceries for €15, the cost of living in Poland is considerably lower than elsewhere in Europe*

A monthly sub of 70 zł is equivalent to £12.39 or €16 at today's exchange rates; sub cost for the UK is £9.99, for Europe it's €14.95. Hardly hard done by and percentage wise players in Canada and Australia pay far more, 37 and 34% respectively, because of loss of value due to exchange rates.

A PLEX at 90 zł is equivalent to £15.91 or €20.60 at today's exchange rates, CCP sell them for £16.99 in the UK and approx €20 in Europe.

Yes, your sub costs slightly more because you have to pay it in a foreign currency, deal with it. You're not unique in having to pay more for some goods because of where you live, it's something that affects everybody; it's certainly not CCP's fault nor anything to do with the PLEX market.

You can buy a PLEX from CCP for less than people in the UK and on a parity with the rest of the people who pay in €. If you shop around you can pick up a PLEX, from CCP partners, for within a few percent of a sub price.

WTF are you moaning about?

And?

PLEX is the gold standard of Eve, it is unlikely to reduce in value and even if it does it's got a floor price of $14.95, €14.95 or £9.99; that is the base value of what it represents, 30 days of game time.


See my original point; player driven economy, deal with it.

Supply and demand, there's obviously people who are willing to buy it with isk at current prices, and plenty of them. If there weren't, PLEX would be cheaper to buy with isk.

CCP don't lose money, every person that pays by PLEX indirectly puts 20%+ more money into CCP's wallet than they would if they paid by sub; primarily because every PLEX that gets consumed was A: purchased with hard currency and B: costs the customer more than the equivalent game time paid by subscription.

TL;DR: Until you can demonstrate that you understand the hows and the whys of the way the current system works beyond "My country's foreign exchange rate sucks the big one and CCP should fix it.", the answer is nope.

* after a quick google search the cost of consumer products in Poland is about 50% lower than it is in the UK and the cost of housing is 60% lower than in the UK.

You know, I and others make some posts about the underlying economics of the situation and you respond with...this complete bullshit.

You sound like a freaking politician IRL spouting nonsensical bromides that have nothing to do with what is actually going on but could make for a great slogan.

How about this...you grow and stop engaging in magical thinking.

Four pages of this nonsensical BS because the OP doesn't know how a free market economy works?

This isn't am issue of you pay for the game your playing.



As some one who makes most of his isk buying and selling isk on the market I would have to be against this


Also manipulating the market for a profit is not that easy at best toy can just push it where is already leaning to try and exaggerat the condition is already in the reason prices keep rising is ccp keeps adding uses for plex and that drives the demand up and up

Coincidence?


I think not!