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1v1 combat refitting and Warp Core Stabs for running away [highsec]
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#21 - 2016-02-16 21:28:32 UTC
I have updated post to reflect that this is about highsec refitting mechanics.

Very niche yeah, stuff nobody cares about enough so CCP don't mind breaking balance.

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#22 - 2016-02-16 21:55:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ralph King-Griffin
Kasia en Tilavine wrote:
There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder.

how sure are you of that.

Arya Regnar wrote:

Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
They can do this now, they don't though.

Well you can also refit scrams.

you never need to though,
the last thing someone will want to be doing is fiddling with their lowslots when you're hammering their tank.

dont get me wrong id be fairly feckinpissed if someone pulled this off on me but id have to tip my hat to a good escape.

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#23 - 2016-02-16 23:39:20 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Kasia en Tilavine wrote:
There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder.

how sure are you of that.

Arya Regnar wrote:

Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
They can do this now, they don't though.

Well you can also refit scrams.

you never need to though,
the last thing someone will want to be doing is fiddling with their lowslots when you're hammering their tank.

dont get me wrong id be fairly feckinpissed if someone pulled this off on me but id have to tip my hat to a good escape.


To be honest, me too.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#24 - 2016-02-17 05:44:50 UTC
Sometimes I forget hardly anyone engages in this type of metagaming. I just wanted to bring this up because CCP will and have most certainly overlooked it.

I guess I will have to just suck it up like always.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-02-17 11:56:18 UTC
If you shoot at someone and they run away without shooting back, you've already won. Why are you complaining?

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2016-02-17 12:04:57 UTC
Kasia en Tilavine wrote:
also, why are you attacking a marauder solo? There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. A mediocre T2 fit on a marauder tanks 2500 dps.

Oh I can think of a few...

Bhaalgorn
Curse
Falcon
Absolution
Astarte

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#27 - 2016-02-17 12:41:36 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Kasia en Tilavine wrote:
also, why are you attacking a marauder solo? There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. A mediocre T2 fit on a marauder tanks 2500 dps.

Oh I can think of a few...

Bhaalgorn
Curse
Falcon
Absolution
Astarte

Damn it reaver , spoil sport, I wanted to hear her response and then hit her with ishkur v marauder kills.

But yeah, you are correct. Anything with north of a small neut and enough dps to get them to run their tank can kill a marauder eventually .

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#28 - 2016-02-17 16:02:53 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:

Oh I can think of a few...

Bhaalgorn
Curse
Falcon
Absolution
Astarte

Inb4 they say that marauder shouldn't duel these so it doesn't count Lol

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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#29 - 2016-02-17 16:17:50 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Why would he bring a ship who unload a depot or offer refit service when he can bring a falcon and break your point to run away?


Why would you bring a 200 mil falcon when you could risk a billion isk nestor being engaged instead?

oh, wait...


The whole problem with this is that the engagement is taking place in high sec. Get out of high sec and solve all your problems.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#30 - 2016-02-17 16:18:13 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:

Oh I can think of a few...

Bhaalgorn
Curse
Falcon
Absolution
Astarte

Inb4 they say that marauder shouldn't duel these so it doesn't count Lol


Fun fact, if a marauder duel one of those, both part of the 1V1 are now suspect and completely open for 3rd partying meaning the "It's only 1v1" point is now moot because anyone can join in.

There is no need for a change because in every single circumstance where it would matter, there is something else rendering the point moot.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2016-02-17 16:22:53 UTC
FT Diomedes wrote:
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
Why would he bring a ship who unload a depot or offer refit service when he can bring a falcon and break your point to run away?


Why would you bring a 200 mil falcon when you could risk a billion isk nestor being engaged instead?

oh, wait...


The whole problem with this is that the engagement is taking place in high sec. Get out of high sec and solve all your problems.


NO matter where the engagement takes place, if you manage to get refitting support and escape because of that, the problem the attacker has is not the stabs anyway.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#32 - 2016-02-17 16:24:25 UTC
I love how people think that 1v1 is a thing in an MMO.
Hairpins Blueprint
The Northerners
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2016-02-17 21:28:28 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Why are you trying to 1v1 a marauder at all, let alone in highsec?



Coz not everyone are blobi Fagz
Takari
Promised Victorious Entropy
#34 - 2016-02-17 21:43:40 UTC
This is almost as bad as the "remove scrams so everyone can get away" discussion in General. If someone managed to get away, you didn't deserve the kill. It's as simple as that. You are not owed kills, and the victims are not guaranteed safety.

It's not game breaking if they avoid weapons timer so they can refit to run. That's all time they're not using to shoot back.

You're unhappy with the possibilities of meta-game changes, but that doesn't make the changes bad for the game.

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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#35 - 2016-02-18 06:34:04 UTC
Hairpins Blueprint wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Why are you trying to 1v1 a marauder at all, let alone in highsec?



Coz not everyone are blobi Fagz


If I was trying to solo a marauder in HS, him refitting to stabs would be pretty trucking low in the list of things that might ruin my engagement.
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