EVE General Discussion

How much real world money would it take to get Mastery 5 in any ship of your choice for a brand new character?

I see a plex is on Jita now for 1.228b. If you like you can assume a more classic amount as recent fluctuations have sent it high... say 750m? A plex costs US$19.99... US$17.50 if you buy 28.

Mastery 5 in a Merlin is;

Hull Upgrades 5
Mechanics 5
CPU Management 5
Gravimetric Sensor Compensation 5
Long Range Targeting 5
Signature Analysis 5
Target Management 5
Capacitor Management 5
Capacitor Systems Operation 5
Electronics Upgrades 5
Energy Grid Upgrades 5
Power Grid Management 5
Science 1
Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5
Gunnery 5
Weapon Upgrades 5
Acceleration Control 5
Afterburner 5
Evasive Maneuvering 5
Fuel Conservation 5
High Speed Maneuvering 5
Navigation 5
Spaceship Command 5
Warp Drive Operation 5
EM Shield Compensation 5
Energy Grid Upgrades 5
Explosive Shield Compensation 5
Kinetic Shield Compensation 5
Power Grid Management 3
Shield Compensation 5
Shield Management 5
Shield Operation 5
Shield Upgrades 5
Tactical Shield Manipulation 4
Thermal Shield Compensation 5
Controlled Bursts 5
Motion Prediction 5
Rapid Firing 5
Sharpshooter 5
Small Blaster Specialization 5
Small Hybrid Turret 5
Small Railgun Specialization 5
Surgical strike 5
Trajectory Analysis 5
Propulsion Jamming 5

That's 29,236,260sp. Average starting sp is 406,094sp. Net 28,830,166sp. The payout goes like this:

< 5 million total skill points = 500,000 skill points per injector
5 million – 50 million total skill points = 400,000 skill points per injector

Last I checked, you could get an injector for 750m.

So you need 10 to get to 5M sp. You need 60 more to get to 29M sp.

70 injectors. At 1.228b isk per plex, 750m isk per injector, you'll need 43 plex.

US$754.74 for Master 5 Merlin. Spare change to buy the ship and modules...

Anyone want to work out Mastery 5 Tengu? :)

not that much extra , you already have the core skills from your Merlin.

would still get your ass kicked in the first fight you picked though

Well the following are useful in about only 25% of the ships;

Gravimetric Sensor Compensation 5
Small Blaster Specialization 5
Small Hybrid Turret 5
Small Railgun Specialization 5

Skilling into a Harpy at Mastery 5 costs another 1,243,675sp - 3 to 4 more injectors, say 3 plex US$55 or thereabouts. Harpy only adds Assault Frigate 5 really.

No drones, no missiles, no armor tank yet. No specials like cov ops or scanning either.

Two of the cheapest plex buys is US$979 and nets 56 plex. Wisely spent to Mastery 3 or so per ship, you'd probably get close to every ship.

That's the idiot price.

I'm not saying some moron won't do it, but the majority of not stupid people will just buy the focused Merlin pilot off the Character Bazaar for a 10th of that.

Mr Epeen

Mastery 5 is a waste of SP and money. Also the mastery levels do not include the skills for the hull itself. Aim for mastery 4 and carefully select those skills which are worth training further.

already have all sub capitals to mastery 5 so lemme check 0 isk

Just checked, Merlin mastery 5 would take me about ~100 more days to train ... ... and the skills left are almost completely useless for the usual Merlin fit and fight, like Trajectory Analysis 5 for a hybrid platform ...

People seriously over-rate the value of EVE "experience".

Sure a new player working it out for themselves solo with a bit of google help can still be incompetent after years.

But a keen pilot with a friend/corp-mate willing (or paid ISK) to spend a few hours every night showing them the ropes and talking them through stuff on voice chat can be up to speed in a particular ship/combat-style in a matter of weeks.

i would think it would be quite a bit more considering all subsystems and cruiser/strategic cruiser skills along with missile skills