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Remove local from the game

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joecuster
Anime Masters
#1 - 2016-02-16 13:18:42 UTC
Greyscale did it with Albion and that game has more players than eve. This could be the solution. No more risk averse pinch pinch
Adeline Rais
Rais Industries and Research Incorporated
#2 - 2016-02-16 13:21:55 UTC
joecuster wrote:
Greyscale did it with Albion and that game has more players than eve.


That's all the persuasion I need, where do I sign? Roll
Dr Cedric
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#3 - 2016-02-16 13:41:00 UTC
Its quite possible that Albion Online has more players than eve because it is also available on more platforms than Eve. If Eve were available on PC, Mac, Android, and Linux, and fully supported (and advertised) for those platforms I'm betting we'd see an increase in users. Simply saying the lack of "local chat" in a game makes it better than Eve and would "fix" the game is a bit short-sighted.

Wow... I just successfully sounded like an ass! First time on the forums! I've truly graduated to bitter-vet status :)

Cedric
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#4 - 2016-02-16 14:05:08 UTC
This would solve risk aversion and get rid of a lot of botting. 2 thumbs up!!
Iain Cariaba
#5 - 2016-02-16 15:16:05 UTC
While I agree with the premise, the reasoning is flawed.
Celthric Kanerian
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2016-02-16 15:28:47 UTC
joecuster wrote:
that game has more players than eve.


*sigh* + *facepalm*
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#7 - 2016-02-16 18:19:03 UTC
I'm torn. I dislike the intel local gives, but also want to troll this thread. What do I do?
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2016-02-16 18:38:45 UTC
joecuster wrote:
Greyscale did it with Albion and that game has more players than eve. This could be the solution. No more risk averse pinch pinch

Quote from Albion Online's site:
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Need a break from fighting for your life, but still want to support your guild? Retire to your own private island off the coast of Albion and build and maintain a farm, including crops and animals, with a whole new set of buildings. Generate food to fuel your guild’s war efforts, or even just sell on the market for a profit!

We do not have that in EVE. This obsoletes your reasoning for local removal and leaves nothing but an inarticulate rant behind.

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Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#9 - 2016-02-16 19:32:00 UTC
And it fixes afk cloaking at the same time!
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#10 - 2016-02-16 19:47:54 UTC
Constellation chat rather than system local would make a nice difference. You still know who is in your vicinity but not 'exactly' where they are as a result. WH's obviously would keep their current system since WH's aren't linked the same way.
Constellation chat would also make EVE feel busier since you would almost never be alone in local, and it would also stop all the 3rd party botlike apps that give you a sound ping and the like when someone new enters local (by scanning for new text in the local window or however).
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#11 - 2016-02-16 20:43:12 UTC
Albion is in closed beta and it has a diffrent buisines model but hey

CEO of Lanate Industries

Citizen of Solitude
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#12 - 2016-02-16 21:03:12 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Constellation chat rather than system local would make a nice difference. You still know who is in your vicinity but not 'exactly' where they are as a result. WH's obviously would keep their current system since WH's aren't linked the same way.
Constellation chat would also make EVE feel busier since you would almost never be alone in local, and it would also stop all the 3rd party botlike apps that give you a sound ping and the like when someone new enters local (by scanning for new text in the local window or however).


Oh yeah! Constellation Chat! Now I can scam and annoy even more people!
Kasia en Tilavine
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2016-02-16 21:40:30 UTC
Sigh at the thinly veiled anti-cloaky camp thread....

If there are 0 methods for interacting with and detecting cloaked ships, either with D-scan or probing... then the npc operations that communicate with every ship in system and provide up to date communcation logs to and from everyone in system should not be able to detect cloaked ships. NOR PROVIDE THEM WITH DATA.

Ergo: Activating a cloak should disconnect you from local. You cannot be seen, nor can you see anyone in local. Gatecloak should also count for this.

Or, there should be some way to locate cloaked ships after a long and time consuming process.
Kaihua Longzhu
Andromeda's Tears
#14 - 2016-02-17 00:41:58 UTC
Albion is in closed beta, there is no way in hell is has more players than EVE.
Cidanel Afuran
Grant Village
#15 - 2016-02-17 00:44:53 UTC
Kaihua Longzhu wrote:
Albion is in closed beta, there is no way in hell is has more players than EVE.


Sure it does. There are only 10 players in EVE ATM, everyone else is an alt.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#16 - 2016-02-17 01:22:16 UTC
joecuster wrote:
Greyscale did it with Albion and that game has more players than eve. This could be the solution. No more risk averse pinch pinch


That is a great idea for getting new people into EVE. The best way to get people into player corporations is to never have to talk to them first.
If only there was a place in not New Eden where there was no local and still everyone was so risk averse that removing content was a much better way to deal with one boat and then complain in the forums they don't find content.

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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#17 - 2016-02-17 03:24:17 UTC
Cidanel Afuran wrote:
I'm torn. I dislike the intel local gives, but also want to troll this thread. What do I do?


New orbital platforms are supposed to provide one-way local intel. In theory.
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#18 - 2016-02-17 14:23:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Cearain
Bad idea with bad reasoning. Typical "remove local" thread.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2016-02-17 17:37:07 UTC
joecuster wrote:
Greyscale did it with Albion and that game has more players than eve. This could be the solution. No more risk averse pinch pinch


WoW has much more player than EVE so we should copy exactly all it does. I want to respawn with my belongings every time I get shot. Instanced content becomes the only real way of progressing from now on too. The market also becomes sell order only.

Yeah, copying other games because they have more player is a sure way to improve the game.
ISD Fractal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2016-02-18 18:39:30 UTC
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