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beakerax
Pator Tech School
#341 - 2016-02-16 02:16:48 UTC
Ah yes, one of those clever new players investing in their character.

I don't really care what IronBank does, tbh.

Dr Caymus wrote:
Looking forward to the Devs weighing in on skill trading concerns.
They already did. They described us as "ready for big changes in New Eden" and then "relaxed the scale a little to allow more flexibility at the high end".

Trader20 wrote:
Thank the gaming God for this, no more bragging about time spent getting sp numbers.
Hmm, maybe there is a silver lining after all.
Jeanne Tivianne
#342 - 2016-02-16 02:50:22 UTC
This game is going places.














Dark, sad places :(
Nachtengel von Rothschild
#343 - 2016-02-16 03:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Nachtengel von Rothschild
Some of you people are truly clueless about Iron Bank... he's a banker of the corp called I want Isk. they own a site where you can gamble isk (and yes the site is rigged like most casinos, you have more chances to lose than gain) @ iwantisk.com

he did not pay 30k... he simply took the isk people put into the site (in their corp wallet) and used almost 2 trillion isk worth.

this guy doesn't even have to play or even log on and his corp deposits him money on a monthly basis... so what he does is go on twitch and give some isk away as "giveaways", fully knowing that this would become popular in eve twich channel... he figured... if he were to donate some isk away, people would donate him real money to stream.

he does have a "real" job however, i guess twitch doesn't pay him enough yet.



as for sp injectors themselves... the entire point of eve for the past 13 years was to gain sp so you could do more with your character, now a new account can max 27 years of skill time into 1 hour... ok... so you basically destroyed the core of your game and told the vets who paid you for 13 years to **** off, it's time for some change.

welp... i am not rich, i can't afford to buy injectors... i also don't play a specific game all day every day to make enough isk to buy some either... so i'm just going to let my sub run out and go play something else.

ccp in a nutshell = cancelled wis, cancelled wod, cancelled dust, no word on legion, seagull talking about a vision that never happened, ccp staff keeps leaving including the founders of the company, sold off white wolf, decided to make some VR games when that platform is not even close to being in demand... the list goes on, these are just examples that come off the top of my head

you're a horrible company man, get your **** together ffs.

i'm out
Droidster
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#344 - 2016-02-16 04:08:58 UTC
Along with others I have posted to the new feature discussion and new ideas discussion about the negative consequences of being able to buy skill points. (qv)

For some players it is only now dawning on them how it is going to affect the game, as others like Ironinject, or whatever his name is, follow in his footsteps and depreciate the years of work by players who trained skills with time. Shell out some bucks, and you too can have more skill points than Dr. Caymus!

Generating revenue by gimicks and selling P2W functionality, instead of by improving gameplay is a road to ruin, killing the golden goose. Disgusted veterans who see years of their lives rendered pointless for a few dollars start to log off. They are replaced by rich 13-year-olds with the attention span of Daffy Duck.

We already saw this whole scenario play out in Dark Age of Camelot, initially a very successful game, which the development company out of sheer greed ruined with a P2W scheme. RIP Dark Age of Camelot (October 2001 to May 29, 2014).

The appearance of this individual with his bought skill points is a very bad omen for all of us. Cry
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#345 - 2016-02-16 04:19:42 UTC
Droidster wrote:


For some players it is only now dawning on them how it is going to affect the game, as others like Ironinject, or whatever his name is, follow in his footsteps and depreciate the years of work by players who trained skills with time. Shell out some bucks, and you too can have more skill points than Dr. Caymus!
To the underlined.

It's those freaking players that are breaking down their characters to sell. Where do you think the injectors come from?

Stop putting these vets on some kind of pedestal and stop pretending you are bedazzled by the aura of pure goodness surrounding them. They're the ones taking advantage of this. If they weren't selling off all their SP, there'd be none to buy.

Mr Epeen Cool
Jacques d'Orleans
#346 - 2016-02-16 04:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jacques d'Orleans
God, even with all those delicious tears in that threads, I'm so sick and tired of those whine threads.
If the SP injectors are such a pain in your arse, then just go ffs!
Just eff off and be done with it, holy crap!
Some of you should step away from the PC anyways, because it looks like you take that game as some kind of replacement religion, holy ****!
S'Way
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#347 - 2016-02-16 04:29:35 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:

Stop putting these vets on some kind of pedestal and stop pretending you are bedazzled by the aura of pure goodness surrounding them. They're the ones taking advantage of this. If they weren't selling off all their SP, there'd be none to buy.

They're also the ones setting up SP farms to keep the supply flowing once they've finished lobotomising their own alts.
Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#348 - 2016-02-16 04:31:43 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Droidster wrote:


For some players it is only now dawning on them how it is going to affect the game, as others like Ironinject, or whatever his name is, follow in his footsteps and depreciate the years of work by players who trained skills with time. Shell out some bucks, and you too can have more skill points than Dr. Caymus!
To the underlined.

It's those freaking players that are breaking down their characters to sell. Where do you think the injectors come from?

Stop putting these vets on some kind of pedestal and stop pretending you are bedazzled by the aura of pure goodness surrounding them. They're the ones taking advantage of this. If they weren't selling off all their SP, there'd be none to buy.

Mr Epeen Cool


How many of the scandalized players in this thread have sold SP injectors?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Jenshae Chiroptera
#349 - 2016-02-16 05:07:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
God, even with all those delicious tears in that threads, I'm so sick and tired of those whine threads.
If the SP injectors are such a pain in your arse, then just go ffs!
Just eff off and be done with it, holy crap!
Some of you should step away from the PC anyways, because it looks like you take that game as some kind of replacement religion, holy ****!
Calm down fan-boy.

As to veterans selling SP?
I doubt that many who care would "harm" their mains.
Alts with limited purpose that have trained random skills because they have a skill queue to fill on the other hand ...

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#350 - 2016-02-16 05:11:34 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
God, even with all those delicious tears in that threads, I'm so sick and tired of those whine threads.
If the SP injectors are such a pain in your arse, then just go ffs!
Just eff off and be done with it, holy crap!
Some of you should step away from the PC anyways, because it looks like you take that game as some kind of replacement religion, holy ****!
Calm down fan-boy.

As to veterans selling SP?
I doubt that many who care would "harm" their mains.
Alts with limited purpose that have trained random skills because they have a skill queue to fill on the other hand ...


Still, it undermines the argument that is based on "the principle of it all!!!!!!"

Tell us, have you sold any SP injectors?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Jenshae Chiroptera
#351 - 2016-02-16 06:01:11 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Tell us, have you sold any SP injectors?
... if only you knew how little SP I had before they came out and how little SP I still have! Lol

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Jacques d'Orleans
#352 - 2016-02-16 06:06:13 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
God, even with all those delicious tears in that threads, I'm so sick and tired of those whine threads.
If the SP injectors are such a pain in your arse, then just go ffs!
Just eff off and be done with it, holy crap!
Some of you should step away from the PC anyways, because it looks like you take that game as some kind of replacement religion, holy ****!
Calm down fan-boy.


Oh wow, an ad hominem, you're such a cool guy.
That hasn't anything to do with "fan boy" it's just that whiners like you make me sick.
If that game is sooo cruel than leave for fucks sake, simple concept, isn't it?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#353 - 2016-02-16 06:08:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Jacques d'Orleans wrote:
... If that game is sooo cruel than leave for fucks sake, simple concept, isn't it?
Now I know you haven't read the thread. Blink

(... and I was enjoying twisting the, "Calm down miner" inane reply) Big smile
Quote:
Skill injectors? Attempting to give a shyte: 0.5%

This is funny, since you seem to have the angriest words in the thread. Lol

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#354 - 2016-02-16 06:11:03 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Tell us, have you sold any SP injectors?
... if only you knew how little SP I had before they came out and how little SP I still have! Lol


Nice dodge. Roll

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Jenshae Chiroptera
#355 - 2016-02-16 06:15:04 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
Nice dodge. Roll
I didn't think it was a dodge but if you want it categorically then "No." I never have and never will use a skill extractor or injector.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#356 - 2016-02-16 06:20:51 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
Nice dodge. Roll
I didn't think it was a dodge but if you want it categorically then "No." I never have and never will use a skill extractor or injector.


Thank you for being explicit vs. being snide and snarky.

Still as for the rest of the scandalized posters...I'd be curious.

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Caleb Seremshur
Naked Oiled Bodybuilders
Parasitic Legion.
#357 - 2016-02-16 06:26:13 UTC
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:
CCP apparently can't make a better game so they started selling it in a different way.
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
And WOW has woken up to this as well after raping their customers wallets for $15 a month for 10 years.
My sub expires in April, when does yours?
You need a second job or a better one if you feel sexually and violently assaulted by paying $15 for a whole month of entertainment.
My account will be cancelled after I vote for Xenuria.
Nana Skalski wrote:
EVE is not what you are thinking it is. Its just an experiment, social experiment. They are testing adaptation of human mind to quickly changing environment. The winner will get all icelandic exotic dancers and a ton of hakarl. Cool
Not any more. CCP has become a large part of Iceland's economy and they have a greater responsibility to the community around them than messing with a bunch of people online.


The word **** in context means theft or abduction which is the historical definition of the word also, not the hysterical definition you've used here.
Jenshae Chiroptera
#358 - 2016-02-16 06:27:57 UTC
Teckos Pech wrote:
... Still as for the rest of the scandalized posters...I'd be curious.
Not sure there is a way to prove it though.
I think the only thing you can do is look at kill boards for a sudden increase in different ships or a drop in old ships.

I still mine though but haven't lost a barge or exhumer in about 4-5 years, which immediately shows a flaw in this.

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.

Teckos Pech
Patriotic Tendencies
Goonswarm Federation
#359 - 2016-02-16 06:42:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Teckos Pech
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:
Teckos Pech wrote:
... Still as for the rest of the scandalized posters...I'd be curious.
Not sure there is a way to prove it though.
I think the only thing you can do is look at kill boards for a sudden increase in different ships or a drop in old ships.

I still mine though but haven't lost a barge or exhumer in about 4-5 years, which immediately shows a flaw in this.



Hand over your API to Chribba....

Edit: Oh...did I just suggest something unpleasant for may posters? Lol

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

8 Golden Rules for EVE Online

Jenshae Chiroptera
#360 - 2016-02-16 07:28:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenshae Chiroptera
Teckos Pech wrote:
Hand over your API to Chribba....
Edit: Oh...did I just suggest something unpleasant for may posters? Lol
Does that show a progression graph?
I mean the eveboard seems to only show the latest point that we reached.

Edit:
Found it but doesn't seem to work for me.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/name here/progress

CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids

Not even once

EVE is becoming shallow and puerile; it will satisfy neither the veteran nor the "WoW" type crowd in the transition.