EVE General Discussion

Hello,

I'm a little bit frustrated so excuse my language:

What happens when you have two warp core stabilizers fitted on ship and you are subject of warp scrambler attempt guess what you can't warp since you don't have 3 fitted.
I'm wandering how a normal ship is even capable of warping without a warp core stabilizer fitted in since with 0 warp core stabs you should be sitting in one place.
So the question is Are CCP aware of it or it is intentional to give old players more PVP and the new players can just sit and pay for another month of subscription maybe, a year just to get some skill's for pvp.

Oh I forgot now there is a skill injector you can buy skills maybe more skills in warp core operation can fix the broken game mechanic.

Happy Saint Valentine CCP I hope you receive all the love you deserve.

Confirming the above.

All ships have a base warp strength of 1.
In order to warp, you need a warp strength of 1 or higher.

- Warp Disruptors = 1 point of warp disruption (Mircowarpdrives and Microjumpdrives still work).
- Warp Scramblers = 2 points of warp disruption + deactivates any Microwarpdrive or Microjumpdrive (but allows for afterburners).
- Warp disruption Field Probes/Generators and "Bubbles" = Infinite strength warp disruption within the area of affect (Mircowarpdrives and Microjumpdrives still work).
- Scripted Warp Disruption Field Generator (Heavy Interdictors only) = Infinite warp disruption strength on a single target (Mircowarpdrives and Microjumpdrives still work). + deactivates any Microwarpdrive or Microjumpdrive (but allows for afterburners).

"Special" cases:
- Certain Faction Warp Disruptors = 2 points of warp disruption (Mircowarpdrives and Microjumpdrives still work).
- Certain Faction Warp Scramblers = 3 points of warp disruption + deactivates any Microwarpdrive or Microjumpdrive (but allows for afterburners).


When it comes to Warp Core Stabilizers, all variants (Tech 1 or Tech 2) add one point of warp core strength.
What this means is that if you have 2 warp core stabs it will take...

- 3 warp disruptors
OR
- 2 warp scramblers
OR
- 1 warp disruptor + 1 warp scrambler
OR
- 1 bubble or infini-point

... to prevent you from warping.


Also please note... just because you are disrupted, scrammed, or infi-pointed it does not mean you can't move. Part of the game is working around problems you encounter and using the existing mechanics to your advantage.
We were all where you are now OP. Believe me what I say this; it seems tough now. It gets easier when you learn how manipulate the mechanics and put the odds more in your favor. And you don't need more skillpoints to accomplish this. Merely experience.


edit: made a mistake and corrected it.

Game is not broken. Would you really send a civilian truck into a warzone without scout and escort and expect it to get past a roadblock / ambush ? REALLY ?

Do you suggest that every player should be a multi-boxer in order to do some PI or transport some stuff.
All I'm asking is why there is a +3 scam and only +1 warp core stab?
Where is the balance..

In the ships that come with an inherent +2 strength and/or with a crapton of slots for more stabs.

Scripted hictor points are a scram now, and the subject of much whining. No MWD or MJD if you get hit by one.




You think anyone's going to read your little tantrum and think, "Wow, those are some valid points presented in a very persuasive manner, and not just the ranting of a clueless and frustrated newb!"

The point of situational awareness is that you avoid the part where the frigate lands on you in the first place. You'll fare far better in the game if you take personal responsibility for your failures and try to figure out how to avoid failing in the future.

Transport ships are very vulnerable, correct. That's why you usually don't fly them through dangerous areas without support.
Generally if you end up in a situation where you need to rely on warp core stabilizers you already made the mistake of being there in the first place. They can sometimes save your butt, but in no way should you rely on that since (as you have noticed) there are counters to them.

I think the best way of learning how to not get caught is learning how to hunt. Find a pvp corp and go blow up spaceships with them, then you will quickly realize that there are plenty of ways to avoid getting caught.

There are ships with 8 low slots allowing them to fit +8 warp core strength.
So what can you do when you only have two med slots?

There are ships who can warp cloaked and are immune to bubbles.
There are ships who can warp in under two seconds and are immune to bubbles as well.
Where's the balance in that?

Snarky remarks aside - just fly the right ship for the purpose and try to figure out ahead of time what you are going to fly into. Warp core stabs are not the only way to not get caught. Speed, cloaks, nullifier subsystems, scouts, ECM(-drones), neutralizers - all ways to avoid getting caught. Learn to use them.

My issue is in the era where ECM now has falloff why do these scrams not have a falloff value or chance to scram. To at least give someone a chance to get away. Nothing should be definite when it comes to ECM.

cannibal kane had a great phobos kill where the victim had like, eight stabs in the lows.