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Could it have something to do with making sure faction-quality items can't be easily monopolized by a single PC entity controling a NPC area of availability?

(Sorry if this has been said before, but I don't have the time to read through 20+ forum pages.)

My thoughts on how this will influence fittings:

How much this change will influence ship fittings, depends mainly on the type of tank, because Damage Controls are more common in certain tank types than in others.

1. Speed/Sig Tank, long range snipers, cloaky:
Usually don't have tank at all, so this change will give them a good bonus in EHP form the native hull resist, but it doesn't matter much, because the goal of those fit is to not get hit at all.

2. Buffer tank (hull, armor, shield):
Usually already have a Damage Control fitted, to maximize the overall EHP. A slight bouns from the higher resists (33% + 40% > 60%), not a significant change.

3. Active tank (armor or shield) (local and remote):
Most of those do not rely on a Damage Control, as they want to maximize EHP/s repaired so their main goal is to get their shield or armor resists as high as possible. In most cases an EANM2 or AI2 does this job better than a Damage Control. To survive reload times (on ancilliary reppers/booster), logi lock times and alpha strikes they sometimes compromise by adding buffer, but often in the form of plates or extenders. They get a significant EHP boost from the native hull resists, making those hard to crack nuts even harder to crack.

4. Active hull tank:
Those do not really exist, as hull resists couldn't be increased over 60% (without Triage or Bastion) while armor or shield easily went over 70% up to more than 90% resists. And hull repair modules are harder to fit than similar sized armor repair modules, require more cap than those and repair only as much as smaller armor repair modules.
The small increase in hull resists helps those a bit, but not as much as acitve armor or shield tanks.

TL;DR:
Overall I think this change only favours active armor and active shield tanks, but my hope for some hull tank love has been denied again.

You can still very easily deny loot using the same mechanic. The wreck ehp was just silly low before, now I think it's in a balanced place.

Giving freighters more EHP is the worst way to ~counterbalance~ a loot retrieval buff. Decreasing the amount of targets will lead to another dead way of playing EvE sooner or later. No one cares that it's easier to loot when there are no more viable targets.

I'd very much argue this. You'd need to get at least 2 ships instalocking and killing the wreck before the looter looted it. Considering how many times even a thrasher failed to get it in time, the chances are significantly lower following the change.

It only decreases targets if you're too lazy to adapt. There is no such thing as an ungankable freighter, so the number of potential freighters to gank remains the same.

thumbs up from me on this one.

1/3rd of my ships dont use a dc these days anyhow.
(and finally a nice change against all the suicide ganks happening)




Sounds balanced to me.

I like the idea of making dcus passive, needing to remember to activate that thing is sometimes a pain. Not totally sure about all the implications of moving part of dcu hull bonus to all ship hulls... we'll see.

One thing confuses me here: people are saying jump freighters in highsec are untouchable. What am I missing? I thought JFs could only jump to lowsec, and don't JFs generally have less ehp than t1 freighters? What makes them untouchable? I've never flown one (out of my price range :), so no direct experience.

Properly flown DSTs are very hard to kill (catch), that much is quite true.

I'm torn about this. An HP buff for the people who do fit their frighters for defense is fair. A buff for the ones who don't is stupid.

A freighter pilot has to balance cargo space against hit points. A ganker has to balance DPS against price. Can we get a default "base DPS" on catalysts now, so people can go ganking without fitting guns?

Damage Controls stacks with the Reactive Armor Hardener.

What's amazing is that the wreck HP change wasn't never supposed to ba a gameplay changer.

But it was a change sponsored by CSM members.

Did the CSM members sponsoring the wreck HP changes realise what they were doing, and why did they do it ?

Dear ccp
Why not remove this module from the game and add its flat bonus to shield/armor/hull to every ship?
I know this would present a balance pass on almost every ship given that they would most likely be replaced by a dps mod. So reduce the dps of every ship by at least 25- 40% as well. This would make fights last longer than 2 seconds and give pilots a chance to recover from a bad warp in spot. This would also make for greater fitting options and more unique fits on certain ships. It would not kill hs ganking but rather require more pilots or bigger ships to kill in hs, which is not a bad thing given the amount of griefing that hs currently has to offer.