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Why Does EvE Online not have a Movie? Not video Clips, A Movie.
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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#21 - 2016-02-11 18:03:43 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
It was less about the actual book than crowd-funding Mittani's enterprise.
Why the hell Fountain war anyway? There are so many other wars that have been way more interesting. I don't doubt that the book may have been a decent read, but the way it was pulled off went wrong on so many accounts that it's laughable.

If you ask me, that book was just an excuse for a failed lawyer to get other people to crowd-fund his enterprise and fuel his gigantic ego in the process.
My hatred for goons is almost a decade old, so take my opinion for whatever you want.
Consider what you've written there. While you agree that the book may have been a decent read, your "hatred" for a group of players in a video game overrides your desire to see an EVE book come into fruition. I'll give you that there were a whole host of things that could have been done better, but the basic ability to pay like $10 and get a copy of a book was there.

And to be honest, given how little books make, how small a cut was earmarked for Mittani, an the rumoured wealth he already has, I don't really think it was as financially important to him as people seemed to think. And hey, a failed-lawyer is better than a lawyer, amirite?

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Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#22 - 2016-02-11 18:20:55 UTC
If anything, I'd have waited for that book to be released to hear opinions from others before spending any money on it.
If there would have been no CFC ties and without that ridiculously high funding goal, I maybe would have backed it, but even that is not guaranteed. Fountain war doesn't really interest me.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#23 - 2016-02-11 18:30:51 UTC
Ilany
Nightingale Enterprises
#24 - 2016-02-11 22:51:53 UTC
So we can't have an EVE movie because of all the high quality products that Hollywood pumps out every year.
Chronicles of Riddick?
Independence Day?
Matrix Revelations?
Terminator 3?
Lost in Space?
Judge Dredd?
Or any one of hundreds of other films based on a very thin premise. Somehow all of these and many more utterly dire stories have made it on to the big screen. Why did Hollywood studios throw money at them in the first place? Because people go to watch them regardless of where they've come from.

Why wouldn't those same people go to watch an EVE film if it was well written and well produced?

Tisiphone Dira
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2016-02-11 23:24:46 UTC
I'm hearing a lot of criticism from you, but nothing constructive. If you want a movie so bad why don't you pitch in and pitch an idea, here's mine:

Tisi the valiant: An everyday heroic space-cop becomes disillusioned by the rampant crime and environmental destruction wrought by the greedy miners, and so leaves the force to become a mail-man. However, in the course of delivering one particular special delivery she stumbles upon a plot to assassinate the rulers of nullsec and highsec at their big peace summit and plunge the galaxy into total war. It's up to tisi and her lovable fedo (comic relief) to stop the assassinations and save the galaxy.

I'd watch it.

There once was a ganker named tisi

A stunningly beautiful missy

To gank a gross miner

There is nothing finer, cept when they get all pissy
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#26 - 2016-02-11 23:46:00 UTC
Ilany wrote:
Why wouldn't those same people go to watch an EVE film if it was well written and well produced?
I'm sure they would, but since noone is writing anything there's nothing to produce. Also, people writing movies can make "generic space story" without IP rights from CCP. To get a game based movie the game has to bring something to the table to make it worth their while.

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Dyllan Ma'tar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2016-02-12 01:04:36 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:


Millions will see the Warcraft movie because its Warcraft. EVE is a lot more niche and won't fill theatres to anywhere near the same degree. Although I'd love to see it happen, I just don't think it ever will, not on that scale anyway.


Now an HBO show, that I think would do better, and would be better.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#28 - 2016-02-12 09:49:30 UTC
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#29 - 2016-02-12 10:19:19 UTC
Dyllan Ma'tar wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:


Millions will see the Warcraft movie because its Warcraft. EVE is a lot more niche and won't fill theatres to anywhere near the same degree. Although I'd love to see it happen, I just don't think it ever will, not on that scale anyway.


Now an HBO show, that I think would do better, and would be better.


Something like an HBO miniseries I could see...possibly. It still wouldn't hold much weight if the story/acting/script/etc. sucked, but I agree it might make it easier to get it all right. It wouldn't be as big a risk I think as a fully fledged theatrical release either, so it wouldn't be as huge an undertaking even if they splurge a little on advertisement or CGI.

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Ibutho Inkosi
Doomheim
#30 - 2016-02-12 10:26:31 UTC
Why Does EvE Online not have a Movie? Not video Clips, A Movie? Probably because you haven't made one.

As long as the tale of the hunt is told by the hunter, and not the lion, it will favor the hunter.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#31 - 2016-02-12 16:46:40 UTC
A movie that millions of people turn out to watch is a major motion picture. A movie only a niche demographic of around 20 thousand people will be interested in seeing is a smut film.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#32 - 2016-02-12 17:06:31 UTC
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2016-02-12 17:42:43 UTC
Tisiphone Dira wrote:
I'm hearing a lot of criticism from you, but nothing constructive. If you want a movie so bad why don't you pitch in and pitch an idea, here's mine:

Tisi the valiant: An everyday heroic space-cop becomes disillusioned by the rampant crime and environmental destruction wrought by the greedy miners, and so leaves the force to become a mail-man. However, in the course of delivering one particular special delivery she stumbles upon a plot to assassinate the rulers of nullsec and highsec at their big peace summit and plunge the galaxy into total war. It's up to tisi and her lovable fedo (comic relief) to stop the assassinations and save the galaxy.

I'd watch it.


Make the same story without paying CCP for the IP and you have a movie with the exact same quality and without the associated cost of the IP.
Silvox Lunae
Perkone
Caldari State
#34 - 2016-02-12 18:02:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Silvox Lunae
While the idea of a movie is a nice pipe dream, the reality is EVE Online caters to an incredibly niche proportion of the population. It would be extremely difficult to turn a profit on a movie with the production values you're hoping for based on the turnout of wherever the movie manages to air in theaters. Online availability would only result in pirating, so that would not be a viable method of return either.
Leeluvv
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2016-02-12 18:09:53 UTC
Jade Yanumano wrote:
I have been pondering something, maybe the community and CCP can possibly look into it, and not just look at home made pvp clips and consider an actual movie.

After 13 years of existence one would think EvE Online would have a movie out. There are enough story lines around to beable to make one. I mean look at this for example below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qEXq0cH3x0&feature=youtu.be

How does Warcraft have one coming out, and i must say rather interesting as well. I plan on watching it. But can no one imagine for themselves how fantastic it would be to see a Eve Online movie with a story line? Immortalize EvE Online in a movie and capsuleers.


Dear 'insert deity here', please no.

We create the content and the videos we see are events we can relate to. A separate movie in the Eve universe is just another sci-fi film that will flop, no matter how excited you get at the idea of watching something that you aren't part of.
Ms Biatchy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2016-02-12 18:17:05 UTC
Nana Skalski wrote:
Movie would be available only on PS4. Cool


You mean PS3.. >>Dust Humor<<
Galded Kion
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2016-02-12 18:35:28 UTC
There was a show on a game network (G3?) called Portal (I think). Granted it covered multiple MMOs (EQ, DAoC, etc), I think that style of a show would fit EVE really well.
Reiisha
#38 - 2016-02-12 18:39:38 UTC
Lucas Kell wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Mittani's attempt at getting the EVE playerbase to fund his business with a full-blown propaganda piece failed. Not more.

The other book that comes to my mind, Andrew Groen's "A History of the Great Wars of EVE Online" got funded beyond his wildest expectations (and yes, I backed that. Whereas I didn't give the slightest **** about that propaganda crap that Mittani wanted to release).
Call it what you want (though how a book where the author takes direct input from the enemies of the Imperium would be propaganda I don't know), it was a book agreed by CCP, to be written by a published author, put forward by one of the most well known players in the game and it failed to gain traction. Like it or not, rejecting media opportunities like that, regardless of who puts it forward, hurts chances of future projects.

It's hardly the best sign for someone wanting to put the kind of budget that movies require on the line. Why would they bother trying to dance around the delicate subjects (based in fact) that upset players like yourself when they could simply ignore the EVE lore, write a space story about a big war and release a movie about that without tying themselves to IP.

From what I've read of Groen's book it's just a longwinded way of reciting EVE history, which we all know and 5 minutes of google can tell you. While it might be a great thing for EVE fans to collect and stick next to their unopened copies of EVE Source, it's not exactly something that will excite non-EVE players and provide a gripping read.


You forgot to mention that it was also a book which was largely aimed at stroking the ego of one particular person.

The book that sought to do things as objectively as possible got less 'official' support and more actual support, because it was more interesting for outsiders as well.

An EVE movie could be about something that actually happened, but at this point, doing anything with mittens, gs or bob will be doomed before it starts, especially when seeking support from within the community.

Also, if you can google Groen's research - Be my guest, show the results to me. I can assure you, a lot of research went into that EXACTLY BECAUSE the information could not be found on google. And if you call EVE's history longwinded - The very book mittens tried to have funded is a part of that, so it must be longwinded as well?

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Reiisha
#39 - 2016-02-12 18:41:34 UTC
Jade Yanumano wrote:
I have been pondering something, maybe the community and CCP can possibly look into it, and not just look at home made pvp clips and consider an actual movie.

After 13 years of existence one would think EvE Online would have a movie out. There are enough story lines around to beable to make one. I mean look at this for example below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qEXq0cH3x0&feature=youtu.be

How does Warcraft have one coming out, and i must say rather interesting as well. I plan on watching it. But can no one imagine for themselves how fantastic it would be to see a Eve Online movie with a story line? Immortalize EvE Online in a movie and capsuleers.



https://youtu.be/U72pU7WrsDs?t=7492

:)

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#40 - 2016-02-12 19:02:18 UTC
I think a made for TV EVE based movie would be awesome.
It could be on the SyFy channel in the US.

After amazing examples of cinema from SyFy such as "Mega Python vs. Gatoroid" and "Mansquito" theres always hope for a made for TV flick about EVE.

Keep the faith.

Every day I'm wafflin!
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